You can hold a doctorate and be unlicensed. You just cant practice.

quote Originally posted by Marvin McInnis: All doctors are licensed, but only a (large) subset of doctors are board certified.

quote Originally posted by RotrexFiero: You can hold a doctorate and be unlicensed. You just cant practice.

Actually not all MDs are licensed, the same as all lawyers are not licensed.

You can hold the educational credentials, MD or JD, and not have state licensing.

Additionally, as alluded to, Board Certification in medicine is not the same as state licensing. It is usually being "certified" as a member of a specialized group within the ABMS, (American Board of Medical Specialties), such as:

American Board of Dermatology
American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology
American Board of Orthopaedic Surgery
American Board of Internal Medicine
American Board of Pathology
Etc.

You can also "practice law" without a law degree or being a member of the state Bar Association as long as your only "client" is yourself.
It is known as "Acting Pro Se". You generally always have a right in this country to represent yourself or engage legal counsel.
I have known a few "lawyers" over the years that obtained their Doctor of Jurisprudence, (JD) degree but then failed to pass their state Bar exams or just didn't bother taking the exam and never practiced law.

Individual states have different professional regulation, and while all states generally require professional licensing of medical practitioners and lawyers, they can also be quite "picky" about licensing and regulating what could be considered some "odd" occupations. As an example, Florida is very strict about state licensing of *fingernail technicians* and apparently painting someone's fingernails, other than your own, without a license can get you fined or jailed.

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quote Originally posted by randye: ... Florida is very strict about state licensing of *fingernail technicians* and apparently painting someone's fingernails, other than your own, without a license can get you fined or jailed.

ROCK ON Amerika.

quote Originally posted by cliffw: ROCK ON Amerika.

For perspective:

I dated an owner of a salon back in Michigan about 20 years ago. Cute little thing. We worked at RJR together. Anyhoot, the reason that there are certifications and standards for the "fingernail industry" is due to folks practicing 3rd world hygiene and calling it a salon. It is just dirt folks that have disregard for others, or no understanding of basic hand washing. I too was confused that a nail technician needed to be certified, but imagine having a dirt ball without knowledge grinding bacteria and filth into your body?

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quote Originally posted by Tony Kania: For perspective: I dated an owner of a salon back in Michigan about 20 years ago. Cute little thing.

I dated the owner of a saloon about 20 years ago. She too, was a cute little thing, but she's also the one that talked me into getting into the wrestling ring with a bear. He whipped my butt every which way to Sunday, in front of a big crowd of jeering customers.

Do engineers still drive train engines?

Always wanted a pair of engineer boots.

quote Originally posted by maryjane: ... but she's also the one that talked me into getting into the wrestling ring with a bear.

Did you mean bear, or beer ?

Both Cliff. That's how they taught the bear to fight. After every round, he got a longneck. The Pavlov conditioning effect...

Did you get one too ?

quote Originally posted by cliffw: You couldn't whup a drunk bear ?

Seriously dude, the bear was in on the beer. Both of them were practicing wrastlin' without a license.

quote Originally posted by cliffw: You couldn't whup a drunk bear ?

Nope, and neither did anyone else that tried. (I was the 1st fool) The drunker he got the meaner he got.
I'm just glad he was muzzled and paws taped up (maybe was declawed--can't remember now..that was back in late 80s.)

quote Originally posted by Tony Kania: Seriously dude, the bear was in on the beer. Both of them were practicing wrastlin' without a license.

quote Originally posted by maryjane: Nope, and neither did anyone else that tried. (I was the 1st fool) The drunker he got the meaner he got. I'm just glad he was muzzled and paws taped up (maybe was declawed--can't remember now..that was back in late 80s.)

Day'um. I thought you was a 2^nd cousin of Paul Bunyan.

Or was it Paul Bunion ?