Some of the responses made by newf and dobey in this thread almost had me feeling like I was living in a world depicted by the movie "1984". Which is pretty scary when you consider how close we came to that becoming a reality in this last election.
[This message has been edited by Darth Fiero (edited 03-13-2017).]
Despite all of this 'evidence' gathered by doobey, there has yet in at least 6 months of this crap, been a SINGLE charge to ANYONE including Trump or anyone involved in his campaign. There is however a plethora of PROOF of Hillarys illegal activities, and shes still not charged with anything.
Originally posted by rogergarrison: I have no idea what words even mean. Can anyone help me understand the words charges and proof? I just have no idea what they mean.
"You can drop the hate label on me, because it doesn't fit." -- every hateful person ever
Your hate is clear in your words, Darth. If you haven't hate, then I suggest you take more time to think about the words you use.
No, I would not call it arm twisting, because you have no idea what was actually said or discussed. As stated in the report, Saranac asked their representatives to do their job in representing them, and help with getting the visas approved. They did that. You don't know the details of how it was done. To say "twisted the arms" is aggrandizing the situation to fit your personal narrative.
Is there some point to this thread other than to foster fear of "immigrants" and hate of Democrats? Because all you're doing is ranting about both, and seem to be expecting everyone else to do the same (because this is a heavily right wing occupied forum of course).
If you have evidence of the details of the conversation between the representatives offices and the State Dept., then please enlighten us all. I'm sure the journalists following the story and reporting on it would love to know those details too. For all you know, they could have simply reassured State that the visitors would have limited mobility around the sporting event only and the Saranac officials sponsoring them would ensure they would be sent off at the airport as scheduled. You are assuming some sort of greater political pressure, or worse, by using the colloquialism of "arm twisting."
The wording suits your narrative of keeping visitors out and hating liberals/Democrats, but it does not necessarily fit the unknown details of what actually happened. Like so many other threads in T/OT here, it is an overly dramatic interpretation, with the sole goal of wanting people to agree with your sentiment and rant about their hate of "immigrants" and "liberals" too. I see no other purpose for this thread, given the wording you chose in the OP and title, and you continue to choose in your posts when you reply with broken up quoting that makes it incredibly painful to actually reply to you (a misfeature of the forum of course, but alas).
Some of the responses made by newf and dobey in this thread almost had me feeling like I was living in a world depicted by the movie "1984". Which is pretty scary when you consider how close we came to that becoming a reality in this last election.
Originally posted by E.Furgal: I really do have no idea what I'm talking about. I just like to attack people without putting a modicum of thought into my baseless attacks.
