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Can you guess the "changes" under Obama? by Threedog
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Changes under Obama?

That's easy!

He LOST:

The US Senate

The US House of Representatives

PLUS

Republicans now control BOTH chambers of the legislature in 32 of the 50 states.

Republican Governors in 31 of the 50 states.

AND

A Republican officially in the White House as of tomorrow.


The rest of that inane New York Times nonsense is NOT personally attributable to Obama so you'll have to keep searching in vain for something...anything... to call a positive legacy.

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Originally posted by Threedog:

https://www.nytimes.com/int...ama-legacy.html?_r=0


Drive through Detroit. Get back to us on that.
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Originally posted by randye:

Changes under Obama?

That's easy!

He LOST:

The US Senate

The US House of Representatives

PLUS

Republicans now control BOTH chambers of the legislature in 32 of the 50 states.

Republican Governors in 31 of the 50 states.

AND

A Republican officially in the White House as of tomorrow.


The rest of that inane New York Times nonsense is NOT personally attributable to Obama so you'll have to keep searching in vain for something...anything... to call a positive legacy.




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Originally posted by Threedog:

https://www.nytimes.com/int...ama-legacy.html?_r=0


Many here aren't interested in facts they just want to gloat for some weird reason. You would think they would take a Presidents policies and decisions on their own merit but no their masters have convinced them the other side is evil and their side is always right. It makes the predictable, weak and oversensitive IMO.

Let's see how Trump fares with his Presidency. Should be interesting.
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Many here aren't interested in facts they just want to gloat for some weird reason. You would think they would take a Presidents policies and decisions on their own merit but no their masters have convinced them the other side is evil and their side is always right. It makes the predictable, weak and oversensitive IMO.

Let's see how Trump fares with his Presidency. Should be interesting.


only thing Obama changed, was
people now pay double for healthcare but some how he and the dem's think it's now affordable..
people had to get a new doctor, as they could not keep their doctor..

He sent racial tentions through the roof..

oh, and he clearly showed he wanted a son that was a thug..

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Originally posted by newf:
Many here aren't interested in facts ...


Here is a fact for you ! His "proof" is the ideological swanning NYTimes.

 
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Originally posted by newf:
You would think they would take a Presidents policies and decisions on their own merit but no their masters have convinced them the other side is evil and their side is always right.


You seem to be saying that one should be taking the new President's policies and decisions on their own merit. They are not. They have already demonized them. He is not yet in office.
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Many here aren't interested in facts they just want to gloat for some weird reason. ...

Let's see how Trump fares with his Presidency. Should be interesting.


Obama signed a bill allowing for the making up of facts to be spread to you and I. If you believe that unemployment has gotten better...

Fake numbers with fake meaning. Hey, there is another article how Obama left the office with dignity. I see otherwise.

Let's see, shall we?
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"national spending on health care"

lol

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Did you notice the section on Climate Change in the White House website went missing at noon .......
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Originally posted by Tony Kania:


Obama signed a bill allowing for the making up of facts to be spread to you and I. If you believe that unemployment has gotten better...

Fake numbers with fake meaning. Hey, there is another article how Obama left the office with dignity. I see otherwise.

Let's see, shall we?


Please share with us how the unemployment statistics and reporting have changed.
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Please share with us how the unemployment statistics and reporting have changed.


Please share where I said they changed. ?
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A few things not charted:

EBT card use

Money supply (printing)

Health insurance cost

Labor force participation

Home ownership rate

etc

One can find statistics to back up any argument.

The prime question is how are our grand kids going to pay for all the money we borrowed?
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Originally posted by newf:


Please share with us how the unemployment statistics and reporting have changed.


If unemployment is as low as they claim.. why are we at a RECORD HIGH of people on welfare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This should be good..
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Originally posted by E.Furgal:
If unemployment is as low as they claim.. why are we at a RECORD HIGH of people on welfare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This should be good..



Please provide historical records to back this claim up. Show us the data. Don't just make wild claims with no supporting evidence, and expect the opposition to do all the work for you.

But then again, that's the typical "conservative" viewpoint. The liberals need to do all the work.
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Originally posted by E.Furgal:


If unemployment is as low as they claim.. why are we at a RECORD HIGH of people on welfare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This should be good..


Probably because wages are so low..
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Originally posted by spark1:

A few things not charted:

EBT card use

Money supply (printing)

Health insurance cost

Labor force participation

Home ownership rate

etc

One can find statistics to back up any argument.

The prime question is how are our grand kids going to pay for all the money we borrowed?



Not everything here was positive, they picked some good things and some bad things.
You're right, not everything is shown here.

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Originally posted by dobey:
Please provide historical records to back this claim up. Show us the data. Don't just make wild claims with no supporting evidence, and expect the opposition to do all the work for you.

But then again, that's the typical "conservative" viewpoint. The liberals need to do all the work.


Typical liberal not wanting to do his homework.

Hint: Those stats and historical records were posted by another member just yesterday my friend.

What work are all the liberals doing? You do realize that the liberals are the lazy faction in this society. The ones taking handouts. The ones rioting. The ones destroying the fabric of this country.

Eh, like talking to dirt. **** off...
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Originally posted by Tony Kania:


Typical liberal not wanting to do his homework.

Hint: Those stats and historical records were posted by another member just yesterday my friend.

What work are all the liberals doing? You do realize that the liberals are the lazy faction in this society. The ones taking handouts. The ones rioting. The ones destroying the fabric of this country.

Eh, like talking to dirt. **** off...


LOL. "Homework." No, a link to a single chart image of EBT usage, with no references at lal, is not historical records.

But here, I found the blog post it came from: http://www.trivisonno.com/food-stamps-charts

A large part of the huge increase in welfare recipients was the economy going bust before Obama even entered office. Then there were hurricanes, tornadoes, and other similar events which wiped out peoples' entire material lives in some areas, which resulted in some of them needing government assistance. Then there is of course the fact that the US population has increased over the last decade by nearly 20 million.

If you read the post and examine the full amount of data, you'll see we are not currently at the "record high" number of people on welfare. Rather, it is going back down. You'll also see that most people on welfare in the US are whites, and it has very little to do with laziness. Yeah, there are a few lazy people on it, but by and large, they are not the majority of people on welfare. Most people on welfare do have jobs, usually more than one, and still need food stamps to get by, due to ever-increasing cost of living, the never-increasing minimum wage, and being unable to even attempt to get out of the poverty cycle.

Nothing about the state of welfare itself is Obama's fault. It's a problem perpetuated by both parties, and not something a president alone can solve. Welfare is just another tool of the oligarchy to keep the rich getting richer, and the poor poorer.
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