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9 - 3 ÷ 1/3 + 1 = ? by spark1
Started on: 05-19-2016 01:52 PM
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Hint - "So long and thanks for all the fish"
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Originally posted by newf:

If most people see a division symbol and a slash in the same equation as the example given most would assume the slash represents a fraction as most do not know how to type in a fraction as you did.



I agree. Appearance of ÷ and / in the same equation implies that they are somehow to be interpreted differently. Using parentheses makes the intent more explicit.

I have written hundreds of thousands of lines of code in my career, and I have made liberal use of parentheses ... even when not absolutely required. Some of the redundancies may cause future maintenance programmers to exclaim "Duh!" ... but they are not likely to misunderstand my intent.

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Originally posted by Marvin McInnis:


I agree. Appearance of ÷ and / in the same equation implies that they are somehow to be interpreted differently. Using parentheses makes the intent more explicit.



I believe the original equation was supposed to be written as such:


Using the "/" to write the fraction does add a visual twist on the original. Assuming 1/3 is the fraction one third and not just another division in a series of 3 divisors is where I was thrown off. Order of operations is pretty simple - on paper. When you have to adjust for how things are typed on computers that adds in extra confusion beyond just the equation.

At least using * for multiplication instead of "x" makes sense. Using "x" as both a multiplication symbol and variable would open up all kinds of doors for errors.

Is there a formal order of operations for how equations are typed rather than written? To most people "3 ÷ 1/3"is clearly 3 divided by one-third, but are there actual mathematical rules stating it as such and not based on individual interpretation?
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I appreciate that, and good to see you too, my friend!

I haven't really gone anywhere. I still lurk in here pretty often, but I just don't post like I used to. Maybe it's time to change that....

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There are 10 fish in a bowl.
3 swim away
2 drown
3 die
How many fish are left in the bowl?

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Originally posted by 2.5:

There are 10 fish in a bowl.
3 swim away
2 drown
3 die
How many fish are left in the bowl?



Not sure how any "swim away" but I would say 10 unless someone or something removed any.
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Originally posted by newf:


Not sure how any "swim away" but I would say 10 unless someone or something removed any.


Correct

10
The fish cant swim away they are in a bowl.
They can't down they are fish, even if they did they'd still be in the bowl.
If they died they’d just be dead fish.

Trick questions …

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That said we did have a fish jump out of the tank when I was a kid.
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I'm not sure if we are still in a debate here. The answer is 9. Anyone putting parenthesis in there is doing so at there own thought and it skews the equation from how it is actually written.

9 - 3/1/3+1= is the simplified version. No parenthesis were ever shown in the original, so adding them in any fashion other than (3/1)/3 is incorrect. I mean at best ((3/1)/3) if you want to get redundant. Whip out a TI-89 or better if you are still a non-believer.
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Report this Post05-24-2016 11:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Without the link I saw it as:
9 - 3 ÷ 1/3 + 1 = ?

9 minus 3 divided by one third plus 1 = 3
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