Good to know that it will now be taught in colleges that everything that I have and worked for (which is very little really) was ill-gotten and stolen from someone else. Good to know that, because of my skin color,race, heritage, etc. I should be ashamed of myself because I'm apparently nothing but a POS. I would think about getting my PhD in White Privilege, but after finishing the program, I would probably be required to give the degree to someone else.
Ok, so what do our black members think that I have gained because of my color? What advantages do I have because I am white?
Serious question. I am still a bit perturbed about a black man calling me racist names, and it was ok for him to say it, but when I countered back with one myself, he lost his little mind. So, what are my privilege's?
A common expression used while I was young was "I'm free, white and twenty-one" which meant one could do as they pleased. That implied that there were restrictions on someone who did not meet all three criteria.
If you lived in the forty's or fifty's, there was a definite advantage to being white. Perhaps there still is.
I couldn't get a job at GM because they were only allowed to hire blacks. I was turned down the first time for another job because they had to hire a black instead. I was out of work and had to apply for assistance, I was turned down because my 5yr old Chevy was worth $100 too much, while the black couple in front of me got the world handed to them and went out and got into a new Cadillac. Who's priveleged there????
Crybabies. If that was true I'd put on blackface every morning...
I don't know if you remember a fellow called Phranc. Pretty sure that is it. A real prick. Like ten times worse than me. Him and I were about 50/50 on things but at least I keep some semblance of control. As much as he annoyed me by his stubbornness and mostly his behavior he would always Rant about Intellectual honesty. Over and over again. I guess he tried to practice what he preached. Not sure how well but at least he believed it was important to try. I can say I always respected that about him. Anyway he pissed too many people off and got booted.
Intellectual honesty is something I don't think people have a hard grasp on. It isn't that important. Certainly not when compared to extreme bias.
I have far LESS rights for being white. Everything is to the blacks advantage. No one gives me free food, rent, car and phone. Black can get anything they want and dont have to work at all.
Hey i'm a colored folk here, so where the hell is my free food, rent, car and phone? I mean the government just GIVES black people things because they are black do they not? Is there somewhere I can sign up to get all this free stuff that ONLY black people get mr. rogergarrison? How about my grandfather who served this country proudly in the military?
Poor =/= black. So yes you can get those things if you are POOR. Not because you are 'BLACK'
Sure there are entitled people in any color, race or creed. I have worked on the streets providing EMS in rough nasty neighborhoods, guess what? It's pretty much equal man, there are low lifes in any color you can imagine. Since working in the ghetto 98% of the patients (including those tasered by police) were white. Now do I go judging and claim that ALL white people are dirt bags like them? No, they are dirt bags because of their personal choices. They are a small minority of people just like the rioters in ferguson are a small minority of people. I don't a race by a small percentages actions, so why should you? There are good people of color and good people of non-color(if that exists). Lazy People (in general) want things in life handed to them, and they will grab on to any thing that they think will get them that.
-Oh and by the way; my last name is Norwegian so that rules that out for 'minority hiring' (That's mostly for the federal government and the priority is for women hiring currently) -Rev. Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton should have the 'Rev' removed from their names. All they do is promote racism and rioting. -I have never and never will collected unemployment or food stamps. -Remember the news likes to stir the pot. -Nobody banned whites from using drinking fountains and called them 'crackers' or enslaved them because of their skin color. That being said, it's not OK for black people to call each other N** and be upset if someone else uses the term. MTV, VH1 whatever is on TV & mainstream media like to perpetuate the idea that being a thug, womanizer, gangbanger and jackass is the cool thing to do. -I hate when people play the race card, but sometimes it is legitimately warranted. My older brother (who is by all means 'white') is an Architect in Manhattan and got a full ride scholarship through college even though he looks white, marked 'white' on all entrance/scholarship exams. So how come some 'black guy' didn't get the job instead of him?
I mean REALLY the ones who got screwed (continuously) are Native Americans. Have you ever been to a reservation? Seen people DRINK hairspray for the high? I mean the government purposefully stuck tribes that HATE eachother right next to each other, let them have casino's to destroy their own people from the inside and then gave them a holiday to say sorry.
My skin has more melanin than others but I don't speak for everyone who is 'colored'. I'm part Norwegian but I don't speak for all Norwegians. If you are German do you speak for ALL Germans?? I speak for myself and myself only. Just as these morons rioting are speaking for themselves. Why are these fools in Ferguson rioting representing ALL the 'colored' people? Remember the news is in the business of airing controversy...
Hey i'm a colored folk here, so where the hell is my free food, rent, car and phone? I mean the government just GIVES black people things because they are black do they not? Is there somewhere I can sign up to get all this free stuff that ONLY black people get mr. rogergarrison? How about my grandfather who served this country proudly in the military?
Poor =/= black. So yes you can get those things if you are POOR. Not because you are 'BLACK'
Sure there are entitled people in any color, race or creed. I have worked on the streets providing EMS in rough nasty neighborhoods, guess what? It's pretty much equal man, there are low lifes in any color you can imagine. Since working in the ghetto 98% of the patients (including those tasered by police) were white. Now do I go judging and claim that ALL white people are dirt bags like them? No, they are dirt bags because of their personal choices. They are a small minority of people just like the rioters in ferguson are a small minority of people. I don't a race by a small percentages actions, so why should you? There are good people of color and good people of non-color(if that exists). Lazy People (in general) want things in life handed to them, and they will grab on to any thing that they think will get them that.
-Oh and by the way; my last name is Norwegian so that rules that out for 'minority hiring' (That's mostly for the federal government and the priority is for women hiring currently) -Rev. Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton should have the 'Rev' removed from their names. All they do is promote racism and rioting. -I have never and never will collected unemployment or food stamps. -Remember the news likes to stir the pot. -Nobody banned whites from using drinking fountains and called them 'crackers' or enslaved them because of their skin color. That being said, it's not OK for black people to call each other N** and be upset if someone else uses the term. MTV, VH1 whatever is on TV & mainstream media like to perpetuate the idea that being a thug, womanizer, gangbanger and jackass is the cool thing to do. -I hate when people play the race card, but sometimes it is legitimately warranted. My older brother (who is by all means 'white') is an Architect in Manhattan and got a full ride scholarship through college even though he looks white, marked 'white' on all entrance/scholarship exams. So how come some 'black guy' didn't get the job instead of him?
I mean REALLY the ones who got screwed (continuously) are Native Americans. Have you ever been to a reservation? Seen people DRINK hairspray for the high? I mean the government purposefully stuck tribes that HATE eachother right next to each other, let them have casino's to destroy their own people from the inside and then gave them a holiday to say sorry.
My skin has more melanin than others but I don't speak for everyone who is 'colored'. I'm part Norwegian but I don't speak for all Norwegians. If you are German do you speak for ALL Germans?? I speak for myself and myself only. Just as these morons rioting are speaking for themselves. Why are these fools in Ferguson rioting representing ALL the 'colored' people? Remember the news is in the business of airing controversy...
Hey i'm a colored folk here, so where the hell is my free food, rent, car and phone? I mean the government just GIVES black people things because they are black do they not? Is there somewhere I can sign up to get all this free stuff that ONLY black people get mr. rogergarrison? How about my grandfather who served this country proudly in the military?
Poor =/= black. So yes you can get those things if you are POOR. Not because you are 'BLACK'
Sure there are entitled people in any color, race or creed. I have worked on the streets providing EMS in rough nasty neighborhoods, guess what? It's pretty much equal man, there are low lifes in any color you can imagine. Since working in the ghetto 98% of the patients (including those tasered by police) were white. Now do I go judging and claim that ALL white people are dirt bags like them? No, they are dirt bags because of their personal choices. They are a small minority of people just like the rioters in ferguson are a small minority of people. I don't a race by a small percentages actions, so why should you? There are good people of color and good people of non-color(if that exists). Lazy People (in general) want things in life handed to them, and they will grab on to any thing that they think will get them that.
-Oh and by the way; my last name is Norwegian so that rules that out for 'minority hiring' (That's mostly for the federal government and the priority is for women hiring currently) -Rev. Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton should have the 'Rev' removed from their names. All they do is promote racism and rioting. -I have never and never will collected unemployment or food stamps. -Remember the news likes to stir the pot. -Nobody banned whites from using drinking fountains and called them 'crackers' or enslaved them because of their skin color. That being said, it's not OK for black people to call each other N** and be upset if someone else uses the term. MTV, VH1 whatever is on TV & mainstream media like to perpetuate the idea that being a thug, womanizer, gangbanger and jackass is the cool thing to do. -I hate when people play the race card, but sometimes it is legitimately warranted. My older brother (who is by all means 'white') is an Architect in Manhattan and got a full ride scholarship through college even though he looks white, marked 'white' on all entrance/scholarship exams. So how come some 'black guy' didn't get the job instead of him?
I mean REALLY the ones who got screwed (continuously) are Native Americans. Have you ever been to a reservation? Seen people DRINK hairspray for the high? I mean the government purposefully stuck tribes that HATE eachother right next to each other, let them have casino's to destroy their own people from the inside and then gave them a holiday to say sorry.
My skin has more melanin than others but I don't speak for everyone who is 'colored'. I'm part Norwegian but I don't speak for all Norwegians. If you are German do you speak for ALL Germans?? I speak for myself and myself only. Just as these morons rioting are speaking for themselves. Why are these fools in Ferguson rioting representing ALL the 'colored' people? Remember the news is in the business of airing controversy...
I don't know if you remember a fellow called Phranc. Pretty sure that is it. A real prick. Like ten times worse than me. Him and I were about 50/50 on things but at least I keep some semblance of control. As much as he annoyed me by his stubbornness and mostly his behavior he would always Rant about Intellectual honesty. Over and over again. I guess he tried to practice what he preached. Not sure how well but at least he believed it was important to try. I can say I always respected that about him. Anyway he pissed too many people off and got booted.
Intellectual honesty is something I don't think people have a hard grasp on. It isn't that important. Certainly not when compared to extreme bias.
It's nice to hear the other side of the story. I believe that a lot of the race problems in this country are government fueled. By passing laws that give anyone an advantage because of race, religion, or sex is not equal rights. Jobs should be filled by ability not quota. By doing so it turns people against each other, not to mention the loss of jobs that get outsourced overseas because employers want people that can do the job not just fill a quota. By keeping racism alive the government can keep the people divided, united we stand divided we fall.
Originally posted by Adam1988: Hey i'm a colored folk here, so where the hell is my free food, rent, car and phone?
Thanks for your reply. Good stuff. Perhaps you can give us your opinion on the thread's opening question.
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Originally posted by Tony Kania: Ok, so what do our black members think that I have gained because of my color? What advantages do I have because I am white?
Also, your views on race relations would be educational. Are things better under this President's reign ?
It's nice to hear the other side of the story. I believe that a lot of the race problems in this country are government fueled. By passing laws that give anyone an advantage because of race, religion, or sex is not equal rights. Jobs should be filled by ability not quota. By doing so it turns people against each other, not to mention the loss of jobs that get outsourced overseas because employers want people that can do the job not just fill a quota. By keeping racism alive the government can keep the people divided, united we stand divided we fall.
You answered your own question... "Poor =/= black. So yes you can get those things if you are POOR. Not because you are 'BLACK' "
They are poor because why work when you can get what you want for free. Those of us that have, 'have' it because we worked for it . I worked my ass off for 50 years. I never went more than a week without working. I never took a vacation unless I was told I had to. Example of what Ive seen first hand...black walks into a car dealer with a down payment, gets a new Cadillac. Has no residence, no job, no other legal income. Doesnt pay the payments for 6 months till they find him and repossess it. Scrapes up enough money to put a down payment again and goes to another dealer to repeat. White guy dont make enough money, lived in his own place 20 years and still needs a cosigner to buy a $4000 used car.
I have a friend in the same business who got tired of seeing exactly this happen too. He finally went down and filled out a fake application to get his free Obumaphone. His thought was they have nicer stuff than me and never worked, I work and Im getting my free phone too, and anything else I can get.
Thank you for chiming in. Being the original poster, and having strong emotional, geographical, and experienced ties to this subject, I feel I should comment. You took the time, so should I.
I wrote something worthless up. It does not compare to the problems WE are now facing. Much of this subject is becoming reality for me. Again.
Love your Brothers and Sisters.
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You answered your own question... "Poor =/= black. So yes you can get those things if you are POOR. Not because you are 'BLACK' "
They are poor because why work when you can get what you want for free. Those of us that have, 'have' it because we worked for it . I worked my ass off for 50 years. I never went more than a week without working. I never took a vacation unless I was told I had to. Example of what Ive seen first hand...black walks into a car dealer with a down payment, gets a new Cadillac. Has no residence, no job, no other legal income. Doesnt pay the payments for 6 months till they find him and repossess it. Scrapes up enough money to put a down payment again and goes to another dealer to repeat. White guy dont make enough money, lived in his own place 20 years and still needs a cosigner to buy a $4000 used car.
I have a friend in the same business who got tired of seeing exactly this happen too. He finally went down and filled out a fake application to get his free Obumaphone. His thought was they have nicer stuff than me and never worked, I work and Im getting my free phone too, and anything else I can get.
I just call it as 'I' see it. I used to give everyone the benefit of doubt. Im sure there are good blacks just as there are bad whites. In the last few years though, Ive required blacks to 'prove themselves' to me. Not so much with whites. I have to face the reality that I simply distrust blacks right out of the box. Falsely or not, I will leave a white in my shop alone for a while, but will not leave a strange black or hispanic out of my sight. They created the distrust, not me. This was not true 5-10 years ago.
I just call it as 'I' see it. I used to give everyone the benefit of doubt. Im sure there are good blacks just as there are bad whites. In the last few years though, Ive required blacks to 'prove themselves' to me. Not so much with whites. I have to face the reality that I simply distrust blacks right out of the box. Falsely or not, I will leave a white in my shop alone for a while, but will not leave a strange black or hispanic out of my sight. They created the distrust, not me. This was not true 5-10 years ago.
and there is part of your elusive "white privilege" blacks must prove themselves. whites are given the benefit of the doubt. this applies to hiring, law enforcement, day in court, and endless other things I cant even think of right now.
"I'm sure there are good blacks just as there as bad whites." LOL. implying that the majority of blacks are not good, and the majority of white are good.
I have enjoyed my white privilege: knowing that there is no wall in society that should limit my success, that my hard work will be rewarded with long term rewards, that in most cases the cops are my friend. Later I was told that I was not being hired because they had to reserve a spot for a minority. Later found out that I had to be smart with the short term rewards if I ever expected long term rewards, hard work along is not going to do it. I now know that I will never consent to a search, and answering any question is optional and most likely a bad idea.
Originally posted by rogergarrison:I just call it as 'I' see it. I used to give everyone the benefit of doubt. Im sure there are good blacks just as there are bad whites. In the last few years though, Ive required blacks to 'prove themselves' to me. Not so much with whites. I have to face the reality that I simply distrust blacks right out of the box. Falsely or not, I will leave a white in my shop alone for a while, but will not leave a strange black or hispanic out of my sight. They created the distrust, not me. This was not true 5-10 years ago.
That's a harsh reality. To me, there is a big factor of how people dress. For the most part there is a statement that people make by the way they dress. If a woman wanders around in short shorts, tank top, strapy sandals, and has lip piercing, tongue piercing or tramp stamp tattoo, if I can get her attention I can claim her backside following the other explorers of the darkside. If white, black, or other sagging their jeans, I just label them stupid and give them all that goes with the label.
Originally posted by spark1:A common expression used while I was young was "I'm free, white and twenty-one" which meant one could do as they pleased. That implied that there were restrictions on someone who did not meet all three criteria.
If you lived in the forty's or fifty's, there was a definite advantage to being white. Perhaps there still is.
Yes, I believe that if your grandparents, and maybe your parents, did not have a good story about getting ahead and how they managed to scrape a small living into a comfortable life then you might not have a role model for your own success. All of my grandparents started with nothing of their own, and worked hard and died with more than they needed by a lot. My parents scrapped by with only with they accumulated and have done very well. None of my parents children qualify as losers.
" "I'm sure there are good blacks just as there as bad whites." LOL. implying that the majority of blacks are not good, and the majority of white are good. "
yes, and stats bear that out. Watching the evening news, local crime reports, and listening to a police scanner all back those stats up. I have some black friends, even had a business partner and Id trust them with anything...but I KNOW them. ...and yes, there are whites I dont trust too. ie/ I had one gf for about 6 months that would stay over. I would not leave her alone in my house. I left, she went with me period.
So, what are my privilege's?
