Better yet cut the pole in half and the car in half as well?
Two teens killed in South Hiram car crash HIRAM (WGME) -- A second teen has died from a weekend car crash in South Hiram. And now, police are identifying the two teens killed in that crash. The four teens in a Saab had just past the Sacopee Valley High School and had come up over a hill, when the 17 year old driver lost control of the car. The car slammed into a utility pole sideways. The impact cut both the pole and the car in two.
Tire tracks, chunks of glass, and the old pole are all that's left at the crash scene. But for Arthur Eastman, who witnessed the aftermath of the crash, the images of that night have left a lasting impression. Eastman told us "The car was severed completely in two. One part of the car was in front of my house over behind the tree. The other part was across the way. That was down over the bank."
Authorities haven't said yet if speed was a factor in the crash. But Eastman told us that car must have been going well over the posted speed limit of 35 miles an hour. He says "I was fire chief here in town for quite a number of years so I've seen some situations like this. It's not easy." Three of the teens in the car, including the two who died, graduated this Spring from Sacopee Valley High School.
The Oxford County Sheriff says 18-year-old Andrew Stanley of Porter died at the scene. An honor student in high school, he was now a nursing student at the University of Southern Maine. Another passenger, 19-year-old Isaac Moore of Parsonsfield, died at the hospital. A former high school football player, he was now a student at York Community College while working as a cook at Province Lake Golf Course.
Moore was also a member of the Drummond Masonic Lodge, and Stanley was in the process of becoming a member. MSAD 55 Superintendent Carl Landry told us the two young men were well known and well liked. He says "I think everybody would say they're respectful kids, quality kids, very much a part of our school community and it is just horrific that they've passed too early."
Grief counselors were at the high school helping students cope with the loss. It is the second time in a year that tragedy has hit this community hard. 16 year old Lexi Valente died in a car crash last fall. Superintendent Landry says "We just got done having the one year anniversary of Lexi Valente. And kids were struggling to process that. And it was an eerily familiar scene at our high school this morning."
The teen who was behind the wheel is now out of the hospital. Another passenger, who is 16 years-old is still hospitalized. We're told this is the third accident on this very spot in the last three years. The cause of this crash is still under investigation. A candlelight vigil is being held tonight (Monday night) in nearby Cornish to bring students and families together to remember the teens and cope with this tragedy.
Now I have done some reconstruction of accidents and such and figure they had to be doing at least 60 or better to cut the wooden telephone pole in half but to also cut the car in half, WTF unless this was some sort of rebuilt totaled car I would think they would have had to be doing at least 100. Or am I wrong ?
Steve
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Trees do a much better job on a car. We recently had 3 teens killed speeding down a country road. Driver is the only survivor and hes going to prison for a longgggg time.
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Doesn't take much to snap a wooden pole, I know that for sure.
I snapped one while driving a Mustang moving at 10MPH when I skidded on black ice.
Drove the car home. Nothing hurt but my pride. Fix the 'Stang, too.
Still have a wood sliver that landed in the back seat in my memento box.
Ya but did you shear it right in half, I have seen accidents that broke them, depending on their age they do deteriorate after 20 years or so. but to have cut the dam car in half they must have been flying !
Ya but did you shear it right in half, I have seen accidents that broke them, depending on their age they do deteriorate after 20 years or so. but to have cut the dam car in half they must have been flying !
Steve
Happens all the time, Steve. Take a browse thru this website and see just how many there are
I didn't see any that the car was literally cut in half.
Oh I have seen cars that hit telephone poles, even done it once myself but never sheared the pole in half and seared the car in half as well, this car had half in one guys yard and the other in the neighbors yard.
Steve
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Doesn't take much to snap a wooden pole, I know that for sure.
I snapped one while driving a Mustang moving at 10MPH when I skidded on black ice.
Drove the car home. Nothing hurt but my pride. Fix the 'Stang, too.
Still have a wood sliver that landed in the back seat in my memento box.
Same here--I've seen 50mph wind snap them off as well, and I broke one off not 2 years ago just bumping it with a loader bucket at less than 8 mph. As far as cutting the car in 1/2--that's a different story, but I saw pics of a Fiero cut in half right behind the people compartment when it skidded into the middle of a cement bridge rail at about 60-65 mph.
Trees, are a LOT LESS forgiving than utility poles.
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Many years ago a friend of mine hit an oak tree with a 69 Road Runner. At 110 it split the car in half, and took out the tree. Killed him instantly, since the entire front seat section was gone.
Many years ago a friend of mine hit an oak tree with a 69 Road Runner. At 110 it split the car in half, and took out the tree. Killed him instantly, since the entire front seat section was gone.
Hey I have hit trees and telephone poles and lived but never sheared the cars in half, that's why I say they must have been doing at least 100.
Hell after 40 years of driving in all kinds of weather in new England you hit a few things and those dam trees just have a tendency to just jump right out in front of you when you hit glare ice.
in my neighborhood last spring, a kid stole his sisters car for a joyride. little chevy cavelier. couldnt have been doing over 40 and hit a telephone pole, and knocked the bottom out. the pole still stood, held by the lines & guy wires, was 2 feet moved over, with the base just sitting like a stump.
I don't think it can be definitively answered. There are a lot of varying factors. Age of the pole. Size of the pole. Speed of the vehicle. Area of the vehicle that struck the pole. Size and weight of the vehicle. Height of the area where the vehicle struck the pole.
An old pole might break much more easily given other factors were constant. A smaller pole might break more easily given other factors were constant. A faster moving vehicle, a big block Suburban as opposed to a Mini Cooper. A pole struck at ground level would be more difficult to snap as opposed to one hit at mid height by an airborne vehicle.
I once saw an 80's something Mustang that hit a small telephone pole broadside. This was actually a service pole for a telephone line, not an electric utility pole. The Mustang was sliced in half, right through the rear floor. The pole was also sliced in half. The front of the car continued through a row of Leland Cypress and a chain link fence and ended up in our neighbor's pool. The rear half was stopped by the trees. All this was after skidding across a ditch before striking the pole. The pool was at the side of the front yard near the roadway.
Police said it was the third new car he'd wrecked and he hadn't even graduated from high school. I don't know if he ever lived to graduate but he wasn't injured in that accident,. By the way, he told the police he was running the speed limit. 45 MPH.
Drivers who kill their passengers shouldn't be allowed to walk away. They need to redesign cars to kill the driver(if anyone has to die, that is) and save the passengers.
That was designed into cars before they invented the collapsible steering column and airbag. Now he is protected and has something to hang onto. In the Licking county crash all the back seat passengers (I believe 2 girls 15-16) were thrown out in pieces and crushed.
