Not over it--just prepared long ago. A lot of the stuff in my stored away first aid kit came from a farm co-op. Suture needles, thread, syringes, dressings, injectible antibiotics, blood stop powder, and anti inflamation drugs. Use at your own risk and discretion and learn how to cut down the dosage by weight.
Gotta be careful with stuff like quick clot. Use them when bleeding is a major risk. If the wound isn't severe enough that blood loss is a concern, it's better to use direct pressure and regular bandages. Quick clot and products like it will stop the bleeding fast, but they can also trap infection in the wound causing problems down the road. That's preferable to bleeding out, but if bleeding out isn't a risk, better to save the quick clot for another time.
I've heard that was its original intended use too.
Some rock climbers use cyanoacrylate to repair damage to the skin on their fingertips.[9][10] Similarly, stringed-instrument players can form protective finger caps (in addition to calluses) with cyanoacrylates.
CA glue was in veterinary use for mending bone, hide, and tortoise shell by the early 1970s or before. Harry Coover said in 1966 that a CA spray was used in the Vietnam war to retard bleeding in wounded soldiers until they could be brought to a hospital. Butyl cyanoacrylate has been used medically since the 1970s. In the US, due to its potential to irritate the skin, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration did not approve its use as a medical adhesive until 1998 with Dermabond.[11] Research has demonstrated the use of cyanoacrylate in wound closure as being safer and more functional than traditional suturing (stitches).[12] The adhesive has demonstrated superior performance in the time required to close a wound, incidence of infection (suture canals through the skin's epidermal, dermal, and subcutaneous fat layers introduce extra routes of contamination),[12] and final cosmetic appearance.[13][14]
While standard "superglue" is 100% ethyl cyanoacrylate, many custom formulations (e.g.,, 91% ECA, 9% poly(methyl methacrylate), <0.5% hydroquinone, and a small amount of organic sulfonic acid[15] and variations on the compound N-butyl-cyanoacrylate's for medical applications[12]) have come to be used for specific applications.
(I have used it on many cuts and it works very well.)
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Originally posted by Fats: I was told a long time ago to not talk about what I carry, or what I have. Seems like decent advice, but it make information sharing difficult. Brad
I think it matters more to your immediate neighbors or locality. But you can always say I hear its a good idea to: ____ or I heard about a guy who: ____ etc
I think it matters more to your immediate neighbors or locality. But you can always say I hear its a good idea to: ____ or I heard about a guy who: ____ etc
Well then. I know a guy who for certain isn't me, that has a backup stash of antibiotics he gets from the local pet store. They are the same pills for humans, but packaged for fish, and called fishacillin. (Contents ammoxacillin)
Great to have on hand if it's ever so bad you can't get to a doctor, or there are no drugstores open. Refresh your supply yearly, store in a cool dry place.
Good for pets as well.
These are for emergency use only, as it's simple enough to get a prescription for antibiotics from a doctor. The guy I know does not recommend you use these to stem an infection in a situation where you can't get into the dentist for several months because dentists are evil and want you to suffer.
My plan is just keeping the RV ready to move out all the time. Its completely packed like I was living in it, down to stocked pantry and fridge. All I need to do is grab the cat, get the keys and unplug the power. Im on the road in 15 minutes to a friends bunker about 100 miles away. I do have enough gas for 500 miles though. I have all the power (including solar chargers) plenty of water (with a rain/river/lake) recovery system. Freeway is less than 1/2 mile going in all 4 directions. Im on the edge of town, so traffic wont be an issue...ill beat them all out.
The best bet though, is anything happening, will do it while im on the island.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison: My plan is just keeping the RV ready to move out all the time. ...Freeway is less than 1/2 mile going in all 4 directions. Im on the edge of town, so traffic wont be an issue...ill beat them all out.
Beat them out... how can one be sure? Thats another question that comes to mind. When does one decide to bug out. Even in a case where one would intentionally avoid freeways, if they were happily "buggin" to their get-a-way place, would law enforcement have stops set up? For sure youd wan't to bug before a curfew or no travel rule was in place.
Apparently they were going house to house in Sierra Leone. "Door-to-door searches during a three-day curfew in Sierra Leone identified more than 350 suspected new cases of Ebola, according by the top US diplomat in the country. " http://www.theguardian.com/...-sierra-leone-curfew
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My plan is for myself and my wife to join family outside of town and figure out where to lay low from there. I don't have the time or money for a lot of food stores but I do have a good amount of lead. In the case of a pandemic my wife and I need to insist on quarantining ourselves when we join family, she is a teacher so she is high risk. We already live outside of dallas and have multiple routes to get further out where we want to be. Either of our main vehicles will go 400+ miles on a tank.
Knowledge of how to collect and purify water is more important than storing it IMO and food later.
We aren't prepped well but will try to be smart with what we have.
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I'll just stay home if it comes to blow. Home is far enough away from major population centers to avoid most problems. Pantry is always stocked (cause I live here). Medicine cabinet is always stocked (cause I live here). All my guns and ammo are here (cause I live here). The creek is less than 100 yards away and purifying water isn't exactly rocket science. I have plenty of wood cut up to stay warm and cook with and a saw and ax to get more. Getting additional food should be pretty easy, if I can't take down a deer in the woods, the 100+ head of hamburger factories in the pasture should make for easy pickin'
I've had the idea to load up my ipad with all kinds of prepper books! Knowledge from water purification, edible vegitation and holistic type meds to how-to books and maps. An ipad is easy to store and recharge. The only problem is when the ipad craps out. hopefully by then i will have had the time and resources to write everything important down on paper so it will be preserved. Just a small thought on the prepper topic.
I've had the idea to load up my ipad with all kinds of prepper books! Knowledge from water purification, edible vegitation and holistic type meds to how-to books and maps. An ipad is easy to store and recharge. The only problem is when the ipad craps out. hopefully by then i will have had the time and resources to write everything important down on paper so it will be preserved. Just a small thought on the prepper topic.
So long as you have a solar charger and there isn't an EMP event. That's the thing with prepping - you can never address every possible eventuality. You just try to cover what you consider most likely. Is EMP a big risk? Probably not, and if it ever were things are probably a lot worse than any typical preps can deal with anyway.
Beat them out... how can one be sure? Thats another question that comes to mind. When does one decide to bug out. Even in a case where one would intentionally avoid freeways, if they were happily "buggin" to their get-a-way place, would law enforcement have stops set up? For sure youd wan't to bug before a curfew or no travel rule was in place.
Apparently they were going house to house in Sierra Leone. "Door-to-door searches during a three-day curfew in Sierra Leone identified more than 350 suspected new cases of Ebola, according by the top US diplomat in the country. " http://www.theguardian.com/...-sierra-leone-curfew
Like I said im right at the intersection of two interstates, some other 4 lane freeways very closeby too. I can be on any of them in 15 minutes. Im usually on top of any breaking news stuff. I always have a TV on, even in the shop. Id travel freeways as long as possible and bypass them when traffic builds up. Ive probably been on every out of town road in Ohio at some point...really. Cities not so much, but Id avoid any cities I could like a plague in an emergency. Id even be out of range from a nuke in 15 minutes (as soon as missiles were fired at us). In a nuclear strike, Id have to get outta here for sure...theres 1/2 dozen good targets here very close by.
Well... super glue, seriously. It can mend up a cut pretty quick, enough to stop bleeding.
Sometime bleeding is a good thing, especially if it is a deep wound, bleeding help for the somewhat cleans the cut out and if you stop it right away that can prevent the cleaning clearing proses from happening. Being on blood thinners I always have a few bandages in my wallet so minor cuts can be at least covered but not until a little bleeding happens.
But as far as the first aid kit goes Don has it covered, I would add that fish antibiotics are available over the counter to anyone and are useful as well,
Steve
------------------ Technology is great when it works, and one big pain in the ass when it doesn't
Formula 88 there are portable chargers that run on AA batteries that work for recharging. The availability of AA's will be a concern. A car battery with a little wiring ingenuity can charge many things. Auto part stores have small inverters for your car that run off of 12 volt car power. An EMP event would destroy alot of electronic devices and equipment. Books are good but bulky. If you have a bug out shelter you can stock it up with essentials like that since you wont be worried about carrying them on your person. I live in the city so i have a few obstacles to overcome. Luckily my girlfriend has a 4wd vehicle not the most extreme thing but it can go off pavement. The thought of using the interstate system in my area would be foolish. My plan is to isolate in a hideout location away from the city for a period of time to determine if a major migration is needed and how to pull it off. Another major issue i have to deal with is my ammo and how to transport it. How much do i take and how much do i leave behind. I've been thinking about the cache idea but i don't like leaving my stuff unattended.
Sometime bleeding is a good thing, especially if it is a deep wound, bleeding help for the somewhat cleans the cut out and if you stop it right away that can prevent the cleaning clearing proses from happening. Being on blood thinners I always have a few bandages in my wallet so minor cuts can be at least covered but not until a little bleeding happens.
But as far as the first aid kit goes Don has it covered, I would add that fish antibiotics are available over the counter to anyone and are useful as well,
Steve
of course... as I am talking about your average cut/scrape/wound where you want to stop the bleeding. Duct tape can be used to make a splint and superglue is just handy for anything. I used glue in place of bandaids as I find that bandaids will come off to easy but the glue will hold through the rest of the project I am working on.
BTW, did you see the episode of Mythbusters where they were on an island with only duct tape? (but this is getting off-topic).
Funny, where I live, people will be bugging out to my area
Aren't they already bugging out ?
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Originally posted by jaskispyder:
of course... as I am talking about your average cut/scrape/wound where you want to stop the bleeding. Duct tape can be used to make a splint and superglue is just handy for anything. I used glue in place of bandaids as I find that bandaids will come off to easy but the glue will hold through the rest of the project I am working on.
BTW, did you see the episode of Mythbusters where they were on an island with only duct tape? (but this is getting off-topic).
Not allowed to watch Mythbusters when Melanie and Amanda are up so no, I will have to watch it on the net.
Maine has a saying,
"you can fix anything with duck tape and superglue !"
Steve
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You know it We actually have quite a bit canned from the garden to get us through winter. I guess when that runs out I would have to hope to find seeds for another garden or improvise I guess. Is looting out of the question?
I have all kinds of charging capabilities. 12/120 volt chargers, solar panel, generator, multiple vehicle batteries, drawers full of AA,AAA, 9v dry cells and rechargeables . We have a fully stocked bunker just short of 100 miles away from me in backwoods mountains close to a river. Theres enough there for all of us for quite a few years if necessary...not even counting anything in my RV. If I remember right, an EMT dont affect something if its turned off at the time...im not sure. We also all have walkies and CB radios. There is no protection from something like an asteroid strike...just luck. I dont know if youd even be safe in Cheyenne Mountain with an asteroid hit closeby. Something more far fetched like an alien attack would pretty much be undefenseable with their technology. Best to hide and never be seen again. I dont ever see a 'zombie' take over...thats scifi stuff, but definately possible cannibalism.
Originally posted by fastblack: Is looting out of the question?
Absolutely not!!!!! Just remember that someone is going to want what you have and they will kill for it. So you must be the same way until you can reach an area that is going to be your permanent residence. For a garden I was told you need to buy heirloom seeds. They will produce more seeds that haven't been engineered to be infertile.
