"According to a senior military official, Dempsey said at a recent meeting: "The Department of Defense's number one priority is combating Ebola."
I wouldn't be surprised iof Ebola was the most imminent risk, once it hit the public here it would be a pretty big mess and an awful lot of freedoms would probably be halted in order to contain it.
I think it is more contagious than we have been led to believe. I watched the interview with the first doctor that contracted it, he said he took all precautions but he didn't always have his gear on and he may have "hugged" someone who was infected. If you can only catch it thru bodily fluids how could hugging spread it. I think we are concerned about a complete breakdown of society in Liberia which would lead to massive spreading of the disease, that is why we are sending troops.
I think it is more contagious than we have been led to believe. I think we are concerned about a massive spreading of the disease, that is why we are sending troops.
At the very least, shouldn't all travel to and from Africa be halted till the disease is eradicated? I know the African's seem to be concerned that this will have an economic impact, but really - what sort of economy do they have with the exception of receiving aid from the rest of the world?
At the very least, shouldn't all travel to and from Africa be halted till the disease is eradicated? I know the African's seem to be concerned that this will have an economic impact, but really - what sort of economy do they have with the exception of receiving aid from the rest of the world?
I wouldn't be surprised iof Ebola was the most imminent risk, once it hit the public here it would be a pretty big mess and an awful lot of freedoms would probably be halted in order to contain it.
And ya dont think that might be the PLAN ???
Send 3,000 to get infected, bring 'em back and 2 weeks later full martial law and full power and controll. That "Pesky Piece of Paper" that has caused more than a few Presidents so much distress in thier agenda's no longer applies....and yes, as we share a pretty open border you can bet Canada will get azz-reamed too. Actually, it wouldnt surprise me if they find a way to START it here to aclimatize you guys since you are so much better armed than we are, plus we for the most part are very centralized with 200km of the border, north of that we get pretty sparse and spread out. Easier to controll the herd.
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Send 3,000 to get infected, bring 'em back and 2 weeks later full martial law and full power and controll. That "Pesky Piece of Paper" that has caused more than a few Presidents so much distress in thier agenda's no longer applies....and yes, as we share a pretty open border you can bet Canada will get azz-reamed too. Actually, it would surprise me if they find a way to START it here to aclimatize you guys since you are so much better armed than we are.
If the plan was intentional I would think something a little more covert would be used, some citizen, or release it in a particular neighborhood, "we dont know how those people on that plane that landed at LAX all got infected, but it only takes one".... Or is this like a poisoned cup, thats what they d want you to think.... Or this poisoned cup
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Sadly, no. I trust your progressive shithead about as much as I trust our progressive shitheads. That is to say, not at all. If there is money to be stolen or a power grab to be made, they are in like sailors in Vegas.
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Sadly, no. I trust your progressive shithead about as much as I trust our progressive shitheads. That is to say, not at all. If there is money to be stolen or a power grab to be made, they are in like sailors in Vegas.
As far as trust goes I think you used the wrong P word. I think the word is "Politician"
Sadly, no. I trust your progressive shithead about as much as I trust our progressive shitheads. That is to say, not at all. If there is money to be stolen or a power grab to be made, they are in like sailors in Vegas.
As far as trust goes I think you used the wrong P word. I think the word is "Politician" [/QUOTE]
I think you are both wrong, "Pricks" was the right word for those in power in our country anyway ! And I still say NUKEM ! Steve
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I dunno about that whole NUKEM idea in this case, Steve. Usually I would agree with you that the simplest and cheapest soloution is the best one, BUT......have you ever seen "Return of the Living Dead". Remember what happened when they burned the 1st zombie, then when they nuked that town ?
Are we SO sure Ebola wont do the same thing ?
Might be a better idea to just quarantine the whole damn continent and let nature run its course.
At the very least, shouldn't all travel to and from Africa be halted till the disease is eradicated?
Impossible. There are thousands that come illegally over the Mediterranean ever year by boat. They can't be all intercepted now and they won't all be intercepted with a travel ban.
Impossible. There are thousands that come illegally over the Mediterranean ever year by boat. They can't be all intercepted now and they won't all be intercepted with a travel ban.
They cant be intercepted now because we dont launch missles at those boats. Carrying a virus that could potentially wipe out millions might just change those rules.
If this were in the 'less entitled immigrant exporting' part of the world, the replys would be a lot different.
Fixed that for ya.....but YUP, kinda interesting how that works, we are less inclined to help those who think they are entitled to take what is ours than those who dont think the same way. Race has nothing to do with it.
They cant be intercepted now because we dont launch missles at those boats. Carrying a virus that could potentially wipe out millions might just change those rules.
At the very least, shouldn't all travel to and from Africa be halted till the disease is eradicated? I know the African's seem to be concerned that this will have an economic impact, but really - what sort of economy do they have with the exception of receiving aid from the rest of the world?
Yes they should quarantine the entire country. ( tho that of course isn't practical ). My suspicion is to keep the infected corralled so that some organization like ISIS cant get a hold of some 'samples'....
As tar as having no economy except for donations... They do have resources to sell the world, where do you think most diamonds come from? Gold too...
Originally posted by maryjane: If this were in the 'whiter' part of Africa or, or Canada, or America, or the world, the replies would be a lot different.
I did not know we were talking about the black part of Africa, .
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Originally posted by MadMark: I don't know what to think about this.
Mark, I have learned from our regime that we never let a good crisis go to waste. Nobama is asking for $500 million from our Pentagon fund to finance his "endeavor". The same Pentagon fund which was slashed due to his sequester. What he is not telling us ... is that deep down in the bowel of that wretched ObamaCare bill is a two billion a year, self replenishing, "Prevention Fund".
Why, yes. I AM a fan of border defense by Samsung. So is Samsung if they spent enough to develop it to the market-ready stage, they must think there is a market for it.
In fact, my next farm I want one every 10 yards of the perimiter. THAT"LL keep the damn door-knockers away.
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Yes, i know "Africa" is a continent. But isn't the outbreak confined to a country or 2? I didnt think it was THAT wide spread at this point. ( that is where my comment came from )
Are they going to try to secure the affected areas so that no one escapes that can cause Ebola to spread?
Certainly we have enough training in the military for NBC warfare that it will help keep those troops safe, but can we be 100% sure for our troops?
Will some of these troops that will be deployed possibly bring Ebola back into the US or other countries?
I don't know. I am certainly mixed on this between concern and wanting to help those suffering. What do you think?
While I'm sure volunteers will be accepted, the vast majority will be "volunteers" currently serving in medical units with logistical support and security personnel. How many of our folks will be infected will depend on many variables but, I can promise you, this will not be loss free. We will lose people.
Our security will not be allowed to protect themselves and our medical folks will be infected just like the current group of doctors and nurses over there. My daughter has a good chance of being assigned to go, she is in a military medical unit. She will go with out b1tching. Want to bet on whether or not Obama would send his daughters?
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Originally posted by Cheever3000: Obama doesn't have a strategy. And he certainly doesn't care about anyone's health. He's just doing it for the image.
This, I agree with.
------------------ Ron Count Down to A Better America: http://countingdownto.com/countdown/196044 Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?
My Uncle Frank was a staunch Conservative and voted straight Republican until the day he died in Chicago. Since then he has voted Democrat. Shrug
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Yes, i know "Africa" is a continent. But isn't the outbreak confined to a country or 2? I didnt think it was THAT wide spread at this point. ( that is where my comment came from )
Seriously guys, there is not a plan to kill/injure/make sick any number of Americans in order to get rid of more freedoms. If they want to do that they will just sign a bill as they have done in the past. And everyone will complain on the internet and do nothing as they have done in the past.
It matters not which side you are on, if you don't subscribe to reality there isn't a point to your blabbering.
I just found out that a Facebook friend of mine in the military is volunteering to go there. If we go we need to do whatever it takes to try and protect our people and to not bring it back to the US.
We also need to go big enough to actually help instead of just making a presence. Optics may be great for political reasons, but humanitarian actions speak loudly to the world.
How many other countries will join us in this endeavour?
If this were in the 'whiter' part of Africa or, or Canada, or America, or the world, the replys would be a lot different.
Not mine, if it was Canada or England or France I would say the same thing, Sorry guys. Color doesn't matter to me, just sending our people into die, because no matter how you cut it we are going to have some of our own die if they go there.
There is no "if" --they are going, and each is a volunteer. We don't have a draft anymore. I doubt, regarding these 3000 troops, that our "losses" to ebola per 3000 troops will be any higher than losses sustained from the same 3000 if they had stayed on their current bases.
As I understand the mission, the 3000 military won't be caring for the infected people. They will be building additional treatment centers and training the indigenous peoples to care for the sick. I suspect a large % of the "troops" are going to be units like US Navy Seabees--construction battalion.
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The Pentagon is sending 3,000 people to West Africa -- more than twice the number currently stationed in Iraq -- to expand U.S. efforts to help fight the deadly Ebola virus, President Obama plans to announce today.
Military personnel will NOT directly provide health care to the thousands of patients, but they will help coordinate efforts of the U.S. government and various international relief organizations to contain the epidemic, according to a statement from the White House.
“It is so important that the U.S. is taking a leadership role in responding in West Africa,” said Dr. Richard Besser, ABC News chief health and medical editor.
Besser added that with so few healthcare workers in the region, it’s unclear who is going to care for the sick if the U.S. doesn’t help. The president's plan only outlines care for ill health care workers, so there will be a big gap left unfilled, he said.
The U.S. military personnel will also help build additional Ebola treatment units in affected areas and recruit and organize medical personnel to staff them. Some of the facilities they help build will be used to train up to 500 healthcare providers a week who will directly deliver care to infected patients.
The United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps will also deploy 65 officers to Liberia – including administrators, clinicians and support staff -- to manage and staff a previously announced Department of Defense hospital to care for stricken health care workers, the statement said.
The president has called the Ebola outbreak a national security priority. He will outline the new steps to address the crisis during a visit to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta today at 4:00 p.m., ET.
As of today, there were 4,985 probable, confirmed and suspected cases in the Ebola outbreak in West Africa, with 2,461 deaths, according to the World Health Organization. The countries affected are Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Senegal and Sierra Leone. It has been called the worst Ebola outbreak in history.
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