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Need ideas, safe way to pull apart .22 LT bullet without damaging. by NickD3.4
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was wondering if you can help me figure out a way to safely pull apart a 22 long rifle bullet without damaging the projectile. I have an idea for some crafts I want to make using 22 long rifle rounds, but I need the bullets to be scar free and as perfect as possible. I've been thinking about soaking them in decreases perhaps. .....gotta be a better way than using plyers, which doesn't work because it scars up the lead.

I thought about discharging in a bucket of water, that may work, however I don't know if the round would see properly back into the casing afterwards.

basically I need to figure out a way to make an innert 22 LR as perfect as possible.

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<seriously, DONT try to pull apart live rounds....just buy some dummies.
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I have stuck the bullet in the barrel and just pulled the casing down without doing any real damage to the round to remove the slug.

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Use a bullet puller.
Google it.
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I would think some rubber coated pliers wouldn't damage the lead.

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:


<seriously, DONT try to pull apart live rounds....just buy some dummies.


When MEM, of all people, gives safety advice, we should consider that to be an extremely dangerous activity!
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When MEM, of all people, gives safety advice, we should consider that to be an extremely dangerous activity!


Lettttsssssss just say as about an 8 or 10 year old I mmmiiiggghhhttttt have some experience with .22LR's, a steel pipe and a hammer.

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Why not just buy the bullets by themselves?
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Lettttsssssss just say as about an 8 or 10 year old I mmmiiiggghhhttttt have some experience with .22LR's, a steel pipe and a hammer.


And maybe we might have skipped school and spent the first half of the day prying lead off our .22's with our teeth, stuffing a small wad of toilet paper on top of the powder and then topping them off with hot wax, and the other half of the day running around the house shooting at each other.

SO DANGEROUS!
All it would have taken was one missed liveload, and one of us would have been dead.
Every single rule of gun safety was ignored.
By kids damn well raised to know better.

SO WARNING!: Do this and die! Or better yet, don't do it at all!
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Lettttsssssss just say as about an 8 or 10 year old I mmmiiiggghhhttttt have some experience with .22LR's, a steel pipe and a hammer.


Isn't that called a zip gun?
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Are you going to use the casing and the round?
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Isn't that called a zip gun?


At that age its called a whoopen from Dad.
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http://www.midwayusa.com/pr...llow-point-bag-of-50

http://www.midwayusa.com/pr...00?cm_vc=subv1739207

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<seriously, DONT try to pull apart live rounds....just buy some dummies.



apparently you didn't read what I am doing, dummy rounds won't work. I pull apart live rounds all the time I reload on a regular basis. 22 long rifle is something that nobody reloads though, so it's much harder to find ways to disassemble.

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Use a bullet puller.
Google it.


have one,the dont make one for 22 long rifle.

Sigh......

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Are you going to use the casing and the round?


Yes
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http://www.midwayusa.com/pr...llow-point-bag-of-50

http://www.midwayusa.com/pr...00?cm_vc=subv1739207




These are 223, 556 rounds. Similar but not what I need. I have plenty of these. I need a lead cast for 22 long rifle. Thanks though.

maybe I can find a lead casting mold and cast my own.


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What are you making? The solid Copper slug may not look right but is safer.
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Have you tried to discharge 1 round in water or gel to see if it will fit the case afterwards?
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Lettttsssssss just say as about an 8 or 10 year old I mmmiiiggghhhttttt have some experience with .22LR's, a steel pipe and a hammer.

I was brobably 13-14 when I found a 22 round and a bicycle wench made from 1/8 steel that had a hole just the right size, I layed the wrench on the ground, put the bullet through the hole and pushed into the ground then gave it a wack with a hammer. It split the shell and luckily nothing went wrong.

When I still lived at home I had some modern brass 7.62x54r winchester I just bought and hadn't put away yet. I return home and my free range younger brother seems to be acting suspicious when I notice a shiney brass 7.62x54r standing up on the coffee table. I check the box and 2 are missing, one unaccounted for. I go out in the garage and I found the other shell laying with my autobody hammer with the pick on it. The shell was belled out on the end but not split. I told him he was lucky he did not hurt himself and let my parents know however in their eyes their 16 year old dropout could do no wrong. He is really lucky he didn't do it to the 50 bmg round I had laying around. He wouldn't admit to doing it even though he was caught between rounds and I never found out what he put it in to hit it, whatever it was it left no marks on the shell and he was a good aim because it looked like he only hit it once.

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What are you making? The solid Copper slug may not look right but is safer.


does not fit. trying to get intact rounds for designer crafts.

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Have you tried to discharge 1 round in water or gel to see if it will fit the case afterwards?


im going to try that soon, I thought about it.
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Originally posted by 84fiero123:

mold your own,

http://www.amazon.com/Lyman...eywords=bullet+molds

Steve

thanks steve, this was my next step...my friend does molds and suggests this as well.
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there rimfire theres no primer in the center couldn't you in theory drill thru the center with a super small bit then flood the round with something that would neutralize the powder and primer paint? i would try it on one you already pulled the bullet and powder out of
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Crush the shell near the projectile so it deformes the casing around the end and should pull out easily. Then use another shell with the pliers for a un damage casing.

DOES IT HAVE TO BE A .22?!?!?!? man they are so hard to find these days..... Would a .50cal shell work for ya?

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Isn't that called a zip gun?


Not even close. A zip gun is a gun (and I use that term very loosely...more like a "projectile weapon") that's made out of whatever parts and pieces of other stuff you've got laying around. A piece of pipe for the barrel, a spring and nail for the firing pin, a block of wood for a grip attached to the "barrel" with some baling wire would be a good example of a zip gun.

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there rimfire theres no primer in the center couldn't you in theory drill thru the center with a super small bit then flood the round with something that would neutralize the powder and primer paint? i would try it on one you already pulled the bullet and powder out of


drilling into the primer compound seems sketchy....
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Crush the shell near the projectile so it deformes the casing around the end and should pull out easily. Then use another shell with the pliers for a un damage casing.

DOES IT HAVE TO BE A .22?!?!?!? man they are so hard to find these days..... Would a .50cal shell work for ya?


yeah, they are getting very hard to find.....
that may work.......
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the few empty casings ive had dont have any compound in the center, maby with a super tiny bit, i have some that are to corroded to use i may pull one apart and see if it can be drilled safley
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I can give you a bunch of references for .223, .270, 30 cal rounds. My son deals with drilling out bullets and casings for turning bullet pens.
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basically, im looking into crafting custom jewelry, but would like to utilize .22 LR for many projects. Making them inert and undamaged however is proving to be a challenge.
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If your making jewellery I would find a alternative to lead. Wood with some silver paint would be close enough, you'd just make the wood slugs long enough to bottom out in the shell and glue them in.
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As a kid, we would grasp the case in one hand, the round in the other and essentially try to bend the round at the crimp. Similar to the way you might break a wood pencil. It can be done if you continue to try bending and rotating the round. It can make your fingers pretty sore but the round will come out without damage. Not much chance of the round discharging since the only thing in contact are your fingers.
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If your making jewellery I would find a alternative to lead. Wood with some silver paint would be close enough, you'd just make the wood slugs long enough to bottom out in the shell and glue them in.


lead danger is so over hyped.......
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