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Is Your Life Worth $20? by Doug85GT
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I was at the gas station yesterday when I saw this:



I was going to say something to him, but he is old enough to know better. He already had the big bottle full of gas already when I noticed anyway.

I can't believe the guy is risking his life rather then just buying a proper gas can for less than $20. If he gets into an accident, there will be gas everywhere inside of his car. Add any kind of spark and he will have a horrible death.
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Station wagons are fireproof.
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If he was going to load that in a fiero I would have said something,what a bonehead.
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I wanna be there when he mixes up the ginger ale bottles
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You can't fix Stupid.
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While I don't approve, I can relate. I ran out of gas once about a block away from a gas station. I walked to the gas station and had to call my wife to drive up in our other car with one of our gas cans because the station didn't sell any. Why in the heck would a gas station not sell gas cans? I was tempted to buy a gallon jug of water and dump it out to fill up so I didn't have to waste all that time waiting. I didn't, but it was a temptation.

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Originally posted by heybjorn: Station wagons are fireproof.

Donald Trump must hate them.
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We use to use glass pop bottles but we were walking with them. Plus 2 coke bottles usually was enough to get you back to the gas station if you could walk there.
Wouldn't ever put them inside of the car.
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Used to be that you could put a deposit on a container and get your deposit back when you returned the container. Made perfect sense to me. Now the greedy station owners insist that you buy an overpriced container if they have one at all. Oh, the good old days!
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Two things come to mind. One....won't that type of plastic disintegrate from the petroleum chemicals and two.....no vents on the bottles. Smart man. He'll have them explode from vapor pressure just sitting in the car.
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Originally posted by dratts:

Used to be that you could put a deposit on a container and get your deposit back when you returned the container. Made perfect sense to me. Now the greedy station owners insist that you buy an overpriced container if they have one at all. Oh, the good old days!


It's not greedy owners, I had the same thought way back when I managed a gas station. The owner said that liability wouldn't let us do that. Too many people suing over stupid things caused gas stations to not loan things out, not greed.... Unless you count staying in business as greed.

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It's not greedy owners, I had the same thought way back when I managed a gas station. The owner said that liability wouldn't let us do that. Too many people suing over stupid things caused gas stations to not loan things out, not greed.... Unless you count staying in business as greed.

Brad


YUP, liability is a HUGE killer these days, both products and services.
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Not to defend stupid, BUT...

How will a "proper" gas container work better for the what, six blocks this poor jerk is driving?

He's either taking it home to put in the lawnmower, probably right now, or taking it to put in another car that's run out. Again, right now.

My proper, approved gas can is still plastic, and won't hold up a whole lot better in an accident. I wouldn't use soda bottles for long term storage, because, as mentioned, I don't know how it'll hold up.

Cut the guy a break. He's in a jam and doing the best he can.
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Originally posted by Zeb:

Not to defend stupid, BUT...

How will a "proper" gas container work better for the what, six blocks this poor jerk is driving?

He's either taking it home to put in the lawnmower, probably right now, or taking it to put in another car that's run out. Again, right now.

My proper, approved gas can is still plastic, and won't hold up a whole lot better in an accident. I wouldn't use soda bottles for long term storage, because, as mentioned, I don't know how it'll hold up.

Cut the guy a break. He's in a jam and doing the best he can.



Every day there are several accidents reported in my city. Not a single person wakes up and says to themselves, "I am going to crash my car today." One of my coworkers survived the 1997 36 car pile-up on I-5. He had no idea he was going to be in that pile-up. He still has PTSD. He pulled several people out of their cars, including a few that were on fire. One man did not make it since the fire was too hot to get in and pull him out. My co-worker is still haunted today by that memory of watching that man burn to death.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/...Crash-of-2790233.php

Why have something in your car that might turn an accident you can walk away from into one that you might die?
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Originally posted by Fats:


It's not greedy owners, I had the same thought way back when I managed a gas station. The owner said that liability wouldn't let us do that. Too many people suing over stupid things caused gas stations to not loan things out, not greed.... Unless you count staying in business as greed.

Brad


I don't see why there would be more liability in taking a deposit on a gas container than in selling it. Please enlighten me. I don't have a problem leaving a $20 deposit on a $10 container since I will be getting my deposit back anyway. If I don't return it the operator makes a really good profit. For what it's worth I think that all gas containers are overpriced. I get mine at garage sales.
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heres the effect of liability



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The blame should be on the gas station person who let him put it in bottles. Signs all over clearly say ONLY APPROVED containers. If a cop saw him, hed get a $500 ticket.
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I hate today's gas "containers". Ya need a manual just to pour the stuff. I bought small 1 gallon container for my weed eater and chainsaw and a 2 gallon container for my lawn mower the other day. I got gas all over me because of the new safety features that suppossedly prevent accidental spillage.

I'm going back to my 5 gallon metal can with a donkey dick spout and just grabbing a funnel.
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Yeah, those "safety cans" without the air vent are silly... a perfect example of good intentions gone awry.
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Safety cans: because America got to where we are today by being stupid enough to pour gas out of a bottle.

If I could save gas in a bottle,
the first thing that I'd like to do
is fill up my mower
and then my chain saw
and cut off a finger or two

Cause there never seems to enough time to buy a decent can down at WalMart
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Thank you, you've been a great audien.
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Originally posted by aceman:

I hate today's gas "containers". Ya need a manual just to pour the stuff. I bought small 1 gallon container for my weed eater and chainsaw and a 2 gallon container for my lawn mower the other day. I got gas all over me because of the new safety features that suppossedly prevent accidental spillage.

I'm going back to my 5 gallon metal can with a donkey dick spout and just grabbing a funnel.


Me too! I can't even get some of them into the fill port on some of my cars. Maybe this is a marketing opportunity for someone to sell a conventional spout that will fit these new containers.
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I don't see why there would be more liability in taking a deposit on a gas container than in selling it. Please enlighten me. I don't have a problem leaving a $20 deposit on a $10 container since I will be getting my deposit back anyway. If I don't return it the operator makes a really good profit. For what it's worth I think that all gas containers are overpriced. I get mine at garage sales.


Not liability for the person taking, for the person loaning.

The way I was explained it, if we loaned an item out then we assumed liability on that object while it was away. So if some fool somehow spilled gas all over himself (I know, hard to do with the non spill jugs), then we could be sued for damages. Any potential profit on a jug is out the window when Joe Blow sues for a new car because your jug leaked gas on his seats, right where he liked to store his lit candle collection.

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I'm still trying to figure out if my life is worth $20...
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by fierobrian:

http://ezpourspout.com/wp/ oked em up on ebay. They go from $7 to $14. That's way more than I give for my gas cans at garage sales. No way I would pay that much for a piece of plastic. Good idea, but way overpriced.
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Not liability for the person taking, for the person loaning.

The way I was explained it, if we loaned an item out then we assumed liability on that object while it was away. So if some fool somehow spilled gas all over himself (I know, hard to do with the non spill jugs), then we could be sued for damages. Any potential profit on a jug is out the window when Joe Blow sues for a new car because your jug leaked gas on his seats, right where he liked to store his lit candle collection.

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Liability if you loan it and no liability if you sell it? Doesn't make sense to me but it doesn't make sense to me in either case. I'll admit that law doesn't always make sense. Not trying to argue, I just don't see the logic. The minute you allow a customer onto your property you are liable in so many ways.

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Not liability for the person taking, for the person loaning.

The way I was explained it, if we loaned an item out then we assumed liability on that object while it was away. So if some fool somehow spilled gas all over himself (I know, hard to do with the non spill jugs), then we could be sued for damages. Any potential profit on a jug is out the window when Joe Blow sues for a new car because your jug leaked gas on his seats, right where he liked to store his lit candle collection.

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Originally posted by dratts:Liability if you loan it and no liability if you sell it? Doesn't make sense to me but it doesn't make sense to me in either case. I'll admit that law doesn't always make sense. Not trying to argue, I just don't see the logic. The minute you allow a customer onto your property you are liable in so many ways.

We didn't sell gas jugs either back then. If that helps.

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Originally posted by Boondawg:

I'm still trying to figure out if my life is worth $20...


More than that Boonie.. At least $25, heck id pay $30 for ya..

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He would be worth more then that if his record collection is in the deal.
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Originally posted by Boondawg:

I'm still trying to figure out if my life is worth $20...


Was it ever determined if that was to you or to someone else?

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Originally posted by blackrams:


Was it ever determined if that was to you or to someone else?


Although I am aware it exists (necessary or not), I have always had a problem with the value someone else puts on my life.
It is a selfish ego-reality; Your own self-worth ~v~ your worth in the eyes of others.

It seems everybody thinks they have a right to a piece of the judgment of another's "worth".
Even wives.

You can probably experiment with this theory by noting your reaction when looking at a horrible criminal or a drug addict in the gutter...

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The courts put a value on peoples lives based on their future earnings potential. Not that I agree or not. They also consider loss of loss of consortium to the many people that you interact with.

Yea, more than $20. But, I understand being in a spot and having to fake it for the moment.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

The blame should be on the gas station person who let him put it in bottles. Signs all over clearly say ONLY APPROVED containers. If a cop saw him, hed get a $500 ticket.


Hmm, well I'm not so sure about that Roger.

Is it that person's job to enforce the law? Or, should he/she call the PoPo when such an infraction occurs?

I'm thinking the individual committing the act is responsible but hey, it's always someone else's fault I guess.

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I hate the new cans.
How hard can it be to invent a gas can???????
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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:

I hate the new cans.
How hard can it be to invent a gas can???????


They can make plenty that work but none that work and please the EPA.
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Originally posted by Doug85GT:

I was at the gas station yesterday when I saw this:







The image wouldn't come up for me, so I'm assuming the car was a Pinto, right?

Because at that point, who cares what kind of container the gasoline is in.
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