theBDub

http://www.trust.org/item/20140723112758-3wd1b

quote KIEV, July 23 (Reuters) - Pro-Russian rebels have shot down two Ukrainian fighter jets, a spokesman for Ukraine's military operations said on Wednesday. The spokesman said the two were downed near Savur Mogila in eastern Ukraine. No details were known about the pilots. (Reporting by Natalia Zinets, writing by Elizabeth Piper, editing by Gabriela Baczynska)

http://in.reuters.com/artic...dINKBN0FS14720140723

quote (Reuters) - Pro-Russian rebels shot down two Ukrainian fighter jets on Wednesday, not far from where a Malaysian airliner was brought down last week in eastern Ukraine, killing all 298 passengers on board. A spokesman for Ukraine's military operations said the planes were downed near Savur Mogila, a burial mound in the Shaktersky region where a memorial marks ambushes by the Soviet army on occupying Nazis during World War Two. He said he did not have any information about the pilots. Igor Strelkov, who is now in charge of the rebel ranks in the eastern city of Donetsk, said the separatists had brought down one plane and that the pilot had ejected. He gave no further details. Fierce fighting raged near the rebels' two main centres in Donetsk and nearby Luhansk, where they have been pushed back by Ukrainian government forces, who have taken control of villages and suburbs around the cities. Earlier on Tuesday, Kiev said the separatists were leaving their positions on the outskirts of Donetsk and retreating towards the city centre. Residents said the rebels, who rose up in April demanding independence from Kiev in the mainly Russian-speaking east, had dug trenches in downtown Donetsk outside the main university, where they have been living in student dormitories. "In Donetsk, rebels abandoned their positions en masse and went towards the central part of the city," the headquarters of what Kiev calls its "anti-terrorist operation" said in a statement. "It cannot be ruled out that the appearance of such movements could suggest the spread of panic and attempts to leave the place of warfare." Residents said they had heard shelling during the night and a shell struck a chemical plant in the city, causing a fire. Local health officials said 432 people had been killed and 1,015 wounded since hostilities started in the Donetsk region following the removal of a president in Kiev who was sympathetic to Moscow and after Russia's annexation of the Crimea region. (Reporting by Natalia Zinets, writing by Elizabeth Piper, editing by Gabriela Baczynska)

Possible (unconfirmed) video of crash site:



Translation of video (from reddit)

Speech - Taken down two SU
Screams after someone shot some automatic weapon - Stop shooting and stop fire
Then guys says that Donetsk AA force took down two Ukrainian SU and that the pilots have catapulted.
Then he proceeds to talk about debris.
I tried to translate further. Sorry for crappy English.
Then some armed group calls and guy says - Here comes Malovs (Don't know how to translate properly) special group to look at what's going on.
Speech between them -
Camera Guy - What about paratrooper/parachute guy (?)
Bearded guy - Gone somewhere
Guy behind bearded guy - We came too late
Someone behind Camera guy - They sit somewhere in the bushes
Camera guy - He went on Ukrainian territory ?
Bearded guy - Unknown
Guy from the left of the bearded guy (?) - We need to find him. He's somewhere in Zelenka (Don't know ho to translate)
Bearded guy - Look at this, it's from ammunition
Camera guy - What, what, what show
- Proceeds to film some kind of bullet -
Bearded guy - Ammunition blew up
Some guy - There must be black box somewhere
Some other guy - They are in every airplane
-Camera guy shows more wreckage-
Camera guy - Here's wreckage of engine
Some guy (Sounds like that bearded guy) - How can you know if it's leftovers of engine ? Or how looks black box ? It might be somewhere around
Some guy - Look, there was something like film (?)/pellicle
Camera guy - Kedr , Kedr , okay where we will find him ? (I assume they are talking about pilot)
Guy - Hard to tell. He might me/he is (?) in about 2-3 km near the fields from here. We found parachute and catapult. Haven't seen any blood. If he's fine then pilot could move away/go away/run away to about 3-4 km.
Camera guy - On Ukrainian territory ?
Guy - Unknown
Camera guy - Okay. We'll look for him
Bearded guy while holding some metallic object - These look like flares
Some other guy - There was Ukrainian airforce marks/signs on the wings
Other guy - Let's look at the marks
They get to there
Some guy (Camera guy?) - Hey guys, everyone look - Ukrainian marks/signs, everyone convinced ? Ukrainian jet. He was shooting at civilians. Taken down by Donetsk AA force
Directs camera at bearded guy
Camera guy - Here's the special group commander Maloy who was ordered to find the pilot
Directs camera at guy in helmet
Camera guy - Here's Kedr with him
Some guy (Sounds like camera guy) - Okay, found the jet, found the catapult and parachute but it looks like pilot got away. We are searching for him. Here are they, Ukrainians.
Shows signs on torn off wing.
Some guy (Sounds like camera guy) - Look at this so you won't fly near us.
Directs camera at more wreckage
Camera guy - Look at this. Like that.

[This message has been edited by theBDub (edited 07-23-2014).]