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Another victim of gun violence, this time in (surprise) Mississippi. by NEPTUNE
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(Reuters) - A prominent lawyer and leader of the Mississippi Tea Party, who was arrested in connection with photos posted online of U.S. Senator Thad Cochran's bedridden wife, died on Friday of an apparent suicide, the man’s attorney said.

Mayfield's death comes after state Senator Chris McDaniel, who had the backing of conservative Tea Party groups, lost a bitterly contested primary runoff against Cochran on Tuesday for the Republican Senate nomination.
 
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Mississippi Tea Party leader dead in apparent suicide

Mark Mayfield, 57, was a founding member of the state's Tea Party and had served as its vice chairman, the organization said.

"This is a terrible tragedy that shouldn’t have happened," Mayfield's lawyer and brother-in-law, John Reeves, told Reuters.

Mayfield was one of three men accused in May of conspiring with a blogger to illicitly take photos of Cochran's wife, who has dementia, in her nursing home for use in a political video against the six-term incumbent.

Mayfield was charged with conspiracy to photograph someone without permission, an allegation met with shock and some skepticism in the legal community


http://news.yahoo.com/missi...arent-154020451.html


I have no comment that won't get me closer to the ban zone, so I'll let the usual suspects spin this one.


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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:

I have no comment that won't get me closer to the ban zone, so I'll let the usual suspects spin this one.



Wont get it from me. You already know the deal. ( your broken record has grown tiresome )

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Originally posted by User00013170:


Wont get it from me. You already know the deal. ( your broken record has grown tiresome )



Hello, pot?


In other breaking new from the lunatic fringe:
 
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Chris McDaniel Urged to Run as Write-In Candidate in Mississippi


Mississippi tea party activists have taken to social media to urge state Sen. Chris McDaniel to keep up the fight against Republican Sen. Thad Cochran by mounting a November write-in campaign.

Write-ins are only permitted under narrowly defined circumstances not met in this case, according to The Clarion-Ledger.

McDaniel may not be able to challenge Cochran again in November because he missed the qualifying deadline to run as an independent. "Candidates can either qualify as a Democrat or Republican via the appropriate state party or as an independent by collecting the requisite number of signatures and filing with the Secretary of State's office," according to the Clarion-Ledger.

Write-in ballots are possible only if a candidate already on the ballot dies, according to the newspaper.



^^ from, you guessed it, Newsmax:
http://www.newsmax.com/Poli...014/06/26/id/579364/

Whats the derogatory term that starts with 'bat' and ends with 'crazy'?

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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:
I have no comment that won't get me closer to the ban zone ...

Suicide by gun equals gun violence ? Pathetic attempt to correlate.
If he hung himself by rope, would that be violence ? Would you be closer to a ban on ropes ? How 'bouts if it was by nylons ?
That's the undoing of liberals. Emotion driven, illogical beliefs and arguments.
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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:


Hello, pot?



Perhaps in your view. Reality may vary.
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How 'bouts if it was by nylons ?


That probably needs to be under an entirely classification, cliff, and further subdivided by was he wearing them before the act, or was he with a woman wearing them before the act? Or both? Probably should be considered a mental illness problem rather than a gun violence problem.

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Probably should be considered a mental illness problem rather than a gun violence problem.


There we go again calling people democrats. . Bad Heybjorn.
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Imagine my surprise to find I had rated Neptune neutral. Well, until just now, that is.
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Originally posted by cliffw:

Suicide by gun equals gun violence ? Pathetic attempt to correlate.


If it furthers their goals, they don't care. Bloomberg's Mayors Against Black Plastic Things That Scare Us listed the Boston bombing suspects shot by police as "victims of gun violence." It helps their numbers. They routinely include suicides in their numbers. These are not honest people.
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Originally posted by Formula88:

Imagine my surprise to find I had rated Neptune neutral. Well, until just now, that is.


I hope you gave him a plus.

I got him as a plus. If he got kicked off we wouldn't get to read his demented ****ed up perspective.

(and I would have no one to be a jerk to.)

Without him you might not believe people like that exist. A sober reminder.

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Without him you might not believe people like that exist. A sober reminder.


All you have to do is turn on the tv.
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How 'bouts if it was by nylons ?




Skip to 45:00 and make sure you watch until 46:00 min, you have got to see the entire hanging.

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I hope you gave him a plus.




Me too.
I mean, he wasn't rude or abusive, was he?
And we all know that's what the rating system is for.

Surely not for disagreement of opinions...
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Originally posted by Boondawg:


Me too.
I mean, he wasn't rude or abusive, was he?
And we all know that's what the rating system is for.

Surely not for disagreement of opinions...


I would have hoped no one would take joy in another's suicide due to their political opinions. Perhaps you enjoy using someone's death as a way to stir up entertainment for yourself? Maybe you think that's just what people do.
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Imagine my surprise to find I had rated Neptune neutral. Well, until just now, that is.



I looked at mine, he is still neutral, funny thing, you are positive, how the hell did that happen? they will both stay the same. We all have our issues and agendas, some more so than others. I don't rate people for that never have never will, well until they piss me off anyway. But then it takes a lot to piss me off now days, just because I disagree with some ones opinion agenda isn't a reason to give them a negative.

By the way I don't like you any more than I like him when I looked at my rating of you it said "He needed it" WTF I have to be more descriptive of my reasons for rating people.

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I looked at mine, he is still neutral, funny thing, you are positive, how the hell did that happen?


Just blame it on drugs, booze or a black out. No one will be any the wiser.
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I have no comment that won't get me closer to the ban zone, so I'll let the usual suspects spin this one.

gauntlet cast.......
I'll accept that challenge.
I like the Tea Party. Have attended their rallys and I support most of their agendas.
BUT........
From what (little) I have read concerning the posted photos of the politician's incapacitated wife, it was a despicable act, doomed to failure just as every other attempt to bring discredit on a candidate by involving their family always has failed and more often than not, has had the reverse effect of what was intended.
It was an idiotic idea. Then, once caught, the attorney, instead of facing the legal music (the charge I believe is just a misdemeanor or minor felony at worst)
decides to use a gun to off himself. A gun--at a time when 2nd amendment issues are at the forefront of every political debate in the nation?? wtf was he thinking?

The guy was a coward and a moron.
I feel for his family, but c'mon, he left himself open to any and all innuendo regarding gun use and abuse by choosing to kill himself with a gun.
Not exactly the brightest bulb in the candelabra.

And for what it's worth, Neptune has on more than one occasion stated his support of private gun ownership rights. I don't remeber his exact words, but he is not against the 2nd amendment.
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Originally posted by maryjane:

gauntlet cast.......
I'll accept that challenge.
I like the Tea Party. Have attended their rallys and I support most of their agendas.
BUT........
From what (little) I have read concerning the posted photos of the politician's incapacitated wife, it was a despicable act, doomed to failure just as every other attempt to bring discredit on a candidate by involving their family always has failed and more often than not, has had the reverse effect of what was intended.
It was an idiotic idea. Then, once caught, the attorney, instead of facing the legal music (the charge I believe is just a misdemeanor or minor felony at worst)
decides to use a gun to off himself. A gun--at a time when 2nd amendment issues are at the forefront of every political debate in the nation?? wtf was he thinking?

The guy was a coward and a moron.
I feel for his family, but c'mon, he left himself open to any and all innuendo regarding gun use and abuse by choosing to kill himself with a gun.
Not exactly the brightest bulb in the candelabra.

And for what it's worth, Neptune has on more than one occasion stated his support of private gun ownership rights. I don't remeber his exact words, but he is not against the 2nd amendment.




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Originally posted by Boondawg:
I mean, he wasn't rude or abusive, was he?

You don't have to be rude or abusive to be insulting.
Or can they all go hand in hand ?

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Originally posted by maryjane:

And for what it's worth, Neptune has on more than one occasion stated his support of private gun ownership rights. I don't remeber his exact words, but he is not against the 2nd amendment.


In some backhanded insulting way i am sure.
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Originally posted by maryjane:

I feel for his family, but c'mon, he left himself open to any and all innuendo regarding gun use and abuse by choosing to kill himself with a gun.


Most people at that point in their life are not worried about the consequences, its not a matter of intelligence.
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Thanks to those who posted thoughtful, civil replies.
I hope the news of this event made the rest of you think, at least.

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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:

Thanks to those who posted thoughtful, civil replies.
I hope the news of this event made the rest of you think, at least.





I thought.

I thought what a stupid idiot he was.
Because he was dumb enough to use a gun to kill himself people get to read threads titled "Victim and Violence" Neither apply.

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What the man did was despicable and it sounds like his conscience got the best of him. However, like members of other groups, his grotesque act is not to be representative of the rest of the group of which he belonged to. And I would have to agree with others in this thread that suicide with a firearm would not, at least in my opinion, constitute gun violence.

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Originally posted by whadeduck:

What the man did was despicable and it sounds like his conscience got the best of him. However, like members of other groups, his grotesque act is not to be representative of the rest of the group of which he belonged to. And I would have to agree with others in this thread that suicide with a firearm would not, at least in my opinion, constitute gun violence.



It probably would if you had to clean the blood and brains from the living room after someone ate a shotgun or put a handgun to their head and pulled the trigger.
Just pause for a moment and picture the splatter of matter a friend/lover/acquaintance left behind.
Maybe your love/worship of firearms would diminish just a little bit.

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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:

It probably would if you had to clean the blood and brains from the living room after someone ate a shotgun or put a handgun to their head and pulled the trigger.
Just pause for a moment and picture the splatter of matter a friend/lover/acquaintance left behind.
Maybe your love/worship of firearms would diminish just a little bit.



Or the pool of blood from slit wrists, or the urine and feces covered body hanging from a rope.
Or the mangled remains impaled on the steering column and windshield after hitting a tree at high speed.

Suicide is no less tragic if they used something else to kill themselves. Suggesting otherwise is disingenuous. Suggesting otherwise for political reasons is appalling. Doing so for your own amusement and taking pleasure in it is beneath contempt.

I pray you never find out what it's like for a loved one to end their life, regardless of the method used.
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Let us make suicide illegal.
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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:


It probably would if you had to clean the blood and brains from the living room after someone ate a shotgun or put a handgun to their head and pulled the trigger.
Just pause for a moment and picture the splatter of matter a friend/lover/acquaintance left behind.
Maybe your love/worship of firearms would diminish just a little bit.



For the record, I hate guns. Never owned one, never will. Care to speak of my "love for guns" again? Also for the record, I walked in to a room soon after a friend of mine took his life with a gun to his head. To this day, despite what you may want or expect me to think, I don't and will not blame the gun for his death. I rarely make things personal in this forum, but I'm willing to make an exception just for you. You sir are a putz.

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:

Let us make suicide illegal.


If we forced everyone to wear mittens...
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If we forced everyone to wear mittens...


At gun point!
Yesss.......Yessss...I WILL RULE THE WORLD!

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Mittens!!! Why did I not think of that?!
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Mittens!!! Why did I not think of that?!


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Originally posted by Formula88:

Perhaps you enjoy using someone's death as a way to stir up entertainment for yourself?


How exactly do you come up with these conclusions?
How did anything I say lead you to contemplate that might have been my meaning?

Just to remind you of what I said:

 
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Me too.
I mean, he wasn't rude or abusive, was he?
And we all know that's what the rating system is for.

Surely not for disagreement of opinions...


How does that equate to me "enjoying using someone's death as a way to stir up entertainment for myself"?
Even you in your continued attempt to discredit my every word must admit that's quite a stretch...

P.S. And for the record, I believe the rating system is for rude or abusive, not "insulting".
I'm insulted by the way some people think.
But as long as they express those thoughts respectfully (no name calling, degradation, etc.), I will not fault them that.

I believe that very idea is in one of this countries founding documents others claim to cherish, but don't seem practice so much...

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I believe that very idea is in one of this countries founding documents others claim to cherish, but don't seem practice so much...


Unless you agree with them, then you get to exercise your right. if not STFU.

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Unless you agree with them, then you get to exercise your right. if not STFU.



And I would have said "Unless you disagree with them, in which case you can exercise you right to STFU!".

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Originally posted by cliffw:

Suicide by gun equals gun violence ? Pathetic attempt to correlate.
If he hung himself by rope, would that be violence ? Would you be closer to a ban on ropes ? How 'bouts if it was by nylons ?
That's the undoing of liberals. Emotion driven, illogical beliefs and arguments.



I agree.. I for one also agree that a person has a right to death if they should so choose after getting the help they need. so no gun violence here. try again.
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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:
Thanks to those who posted thoughtful, civil replies.

What do you know about thoughtful civil replies ?
I have to ask because your perception of gun violence is skewed.

 
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Originally posted by Boondawg:
P.S. And for the record, I believe the rating system is for rude or abusive, not "insulting".

Again I have to ask. Does rude, abusive, and insulting all go hand in hand ?
I didn't get the memo on what rules a person's rating choice. I respect a man's choice to neg a member he does not like, no matter the reason.
 
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Originally posted by Boondawg:
I'm insulted by the way some people think.

I would hope you mean by how they act towards you upon what they think/who they are.
I mean ... I don't get your logic. I have this image ... that I could be offended by how one eats, or runs, or just about anything that has nothing to do with me.
Life is too short to get offended. That just wastes time which could be better used getting even, .
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