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The Militarization of US Law Enforcement by Formula88
Started on: 06-25-2014 01:33 PM
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Report this Post06-25-2014 01:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
http://www.npr.org/blogs/th...aw-enforcement?sc=tw

Some points from the article:
 
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— "In 2010, 7-year-old when, just after midnight, a SWAT team threw a flashbang grenade through the window into the living room where she was asleep. The flashbang burned her blanket and a member of the SWAT team burst into the house, firing a single shot, which killed her."

— Jose Guerena, a 26-year-old Iraq War veteran, whose wife heard a noise that turned out to be a SWAT team. Guerena "picked up his rifle, with the safety on, and went to investigate. A SWAT team fired 71 shots at Guerena,

— 62 percent of SWAT raids were for the purpose of conducting drug searches.

— Just 7 percent of SWAT raids were "for hostages, barricade, or active shooter scenarios."

— SWAT raids are directed disproportionately against people of color — 30 percent of the time the "race of individual people impacted" was black, 11 percent of the time Latino, 20 percent white and 30 percent unknown.

— Armored personnel vehicles that local law enforcement agencies have received through grants from the Department of Homeland Security are most commonly used for drug raids and not school shootings and terrorist situations.

— In cases in which police cited the possible presence of a weapon in the home as a reason for utilizing a SWAT team, weapons were found only 35 percent of the time.


More detail and linked sources are at the linked article.
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Report this Post06-25-2014 04:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ray bSend a Private Message to ray bEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
STILL LOOKING FOR THE NUMBERS OF CITIZENS KILLED
BY YEAR BY STATE OR NATIONAL
for any year
esp the bad shootings of unarmed non criminal citizens by cops

is it 100 to 1 or a 1000 to 1 or more citizens to cops killed shot ect

eazy to find the cops killed or shot or even heart attacks by cops on the job numbers
but no national or state by state city by city numbers for citizen killed
nore any breakout of bad shootings , wounding or shot at numbers by barny fife type cops

the PIG IS HIDING THE NUMBERS OF CITIZENS KILLED
WHY
BECAUSE THEY ARE WAY WAY WAY TOOOO HIGH

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Report this Post06-25-2014 08:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pokeyfieroClick Here to visit pokeyfiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to pokeyfieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hey! Give them a break.

They are Skeered.
33 cops died from gunshot wounds in 2013.
COPS KILL AN AVERAGE OF 500 PEOPLE EACH YEAR>5000 since the Iraq war started. More civilians have died here by cops than soldiers in Iraq!!

In the 20 years since, weaponry designed for use on a foreign battlefield, has been handed over for use on American streets…against American citizens.

The “War on Drugs” and the “War on Terror” replaced the Cold War with billions in funding and dozens of laws geared towards this new “war” against its own citizens.

This militarization of the police force has created what is being called an “epidemic of police brutality” sweeping the nation.


Read more at http://thefreethoughtprojec...#B2i6RcroXqYhmtP8.99
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Now it may be going overboard, but to be fair, criminals are upping their game, so the police needs to up theirs.
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Originally posted by User00013170:

Now it may be going overboard, but to be fair, criminals are upping their game, so the police needs to up theirs.



What are they upping their game to? Something new?
I been around. I seen some **** . I know some peeps. I am not seeing anything new.


And

The numbers show otherwise.

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Report this Post06-25-2014 08:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Cheever3000Send a Private Message to Cheever3000Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
For once I agree with rayb.

Headline: "Climate change in Hell - Ice Age"

BTW, I didn't realize the law was so interested in the so-called war on drugs.
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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:
What are they upping their game to? Something new?
I been around. I seen some **** . I know some peeps. I am not seeing anything new.


And

The numbers show otherwise.


Around these parts the gangs are now carrying AK47s, not saturday night specials.
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Originally posted by User00013170:


Around these parts the gangs are now carrying AK47s, not saturday night specials.

Around here they just standard issue household items


38 Special sits atop the book shelf next to front door.

10 years ago you could buy a crate of Uzzies off the Oakland dock if you knew who to ask.
AK's and especially SKS's could be bought like cord wood stacks.


I believe a huge portion of the available firearms have gone underground not likely to be see for awhile.
Bad guys are not out flaunting them and they don't use them against civilians at least not intentionally.

I think cops most fear the small arm they can't see in a car.
They are hitting house like they invading Hitler's bunker treating everyone like a whack job cop killer.
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Report this Post06-26-2014 12:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
To the very far right of the pic --Is that a roach clip in the chair--about to fall down behind the cushions?

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Originally posted by maryjane:

To the very far right of the pic --Is that a roach clip in the chair--about to fall down behind the cushions?





Not a chance in hell.No one in my household partakes.
Hell...no one even drinks.No excitement around here.

Looks like it is a cable end. Nothing exciting again.

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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:
Looks like it is a cable end. Nothing exciting again.


Or a battery?
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Originally posted by User00013170:


Or a battery?


It is! And two zip ties!

Now that might be exciting to someone like MacGyver!

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Report this Post06-26-2014 09:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I see what looks like the battery--don't know what is in front of it.
Oh well, was just looking for something innoculous I could ask for.

Of all the many times I've asked "Hey can I have that old..." I've never gotten a dang thing tho one member did promise to send me a pencil I saw under the edge of his center console skeleton. Been 3 years I think and still anxiously awaiting the mail delivery...
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Originally posted by maryjane:

I see what looks like the battery--don't know what is in front of it.
Oh well, was just looking for something innoculous I could ask for.

Of all the many times I've asked "Hey can I have that old..." I've never gotten a dang thing tho one member did promise to send me a pencil I saw under the edge of his center console skeleton. Been 3 years I think and still anxiously awaiting the mail delivery...


I can't send you those items but I could send you an equivalent or better AA battery and two small zip ties.

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I read somewhere that they are afriad of all the returning vets.
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Report this Post06-27-2014 01:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Bradley JaySend a Private Message to Bradley JayEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The 501(c)(3) status of some of these SWAT teams is even scarier: http://www.washingtonpost.c...m-open-records-laws/
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Originally posted by Bradley Jay:

The 501(c)(3) status of some of these SWAT teams is even scarier: http://www.washingtonpost.c...m-open-records-laws/



I'd love to hear Rick or Nick comment on this.


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Not sure if it was previously posted, but in relation why is the department of Agriculture applying for a request to purchase bullet proof vests & incredibly heavy ammunition?

On a related note, I read an incredibly sad story about a SWAT team nearly killing a child. They busted in the door & chucked a concussion grenade that landed right into a baby crib. They didn't even have the right house. This was in Atlanta.
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Originally posted by no2pencil:

Not sure if it was previously posted, but in relation why is the department of Agriculture applying for a request to purchase bullet proof vests & incredibly heavy ammunition?

On a related note, I read an incredibly sad story about a SWAT team nearly killing a child. They busted in the door & chucked a concussion grenade that landed right into a baby crib. They didn't even have the right house. This was in Atlanta.


I read the same link. From what I remember, the grenade landed right on her chest; when it blew up, the damage actually exposed the child's ribcage.

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I read the same link. From what I remember, the grenade landed right on her chest; when it blew up, the damage actually exposed the child's ribcage.



Yeah, I think the child is still live, but damn, would be a miracle to pull through that. What a terrible waste.
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Originally posted by Bradley Jay:


I read the same link. From what I remember, the grenade landed right on her chest; when it blew up, the damage actually exposed the child's ribcage.


http://www.ijreview.com/201...unds-2-year-old-boy/
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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

http://www.ijreview.com/201...unds-2-year-old-boy/


This kwrap has been going on for a while, here.
That particular raid was in northeast GA. Probably 80 miles from Atlanta. They probably had some new "cop equipment" that they were itching to try out.
Before that, one of the most infamous raids was in the City of Atlanta, proper. Drug neighborhood. Cops were given a bad address by an informant (as the story went.) Cops kicked in the door of a mostly bedridden 90 year old woman. When she raised a gun to defend herself (she thought it was a robbery) they blew her away.

Welcome to Georgia.

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