I'm a bit slow on the uptake here, but is anyone else irritated by this?

A business advertises EOE, to me that means everyone is equal.

Then, on the same page they advertise that they give hiring preference to Military, Disabled, Women, and Minorities. (But not in that order. MINORITY/FEMALE/DISABILITY/VETERAN)

Why are we pretending to be equal opportunity, when everyone except one group gets preferential treatment? That really doesn't seem "equal". ..

Brad

I think it's because Equal Opportunity is a misnomer. EOE means "we won't throw your application out because you are x/y/z" (they will instead find other reasons to do so). It's not saying they'll treat each applicant with equal weight, unfortunately.

quote Originally posted by kwagner: I think it's because Equal Opportunity is a misnomer. EOE means "we won't throw your application out because you are x/y/z" (they will instead find other reasons to do so). It's not saying they'll treat each applicant with equal weight, unfortunately.

I should point out that I'm against "equal opportunity" on any level, for any reason. Just because people that haven't paid attention to me over the past 10 years will jump in saying something.

It shouldn't matter what race, or sex I am. If I am the right person for the job I should be hired for the job.

Brad

Tomorrow morning, Brad, get up to watch the sunrise so you can see the unicorn riding fairies sprinkling utopia dust. You will feel much better, and that idea of getting a job on your merits will melt away and never trouble you again.

quote Originally posted by Fats: It shouldn't matter what race, or sex I am. If I am the right person for the job I should be hired for the job.

Agreed

quote Originally posted by Fats: It shouldn't matter what race, or sex I am. If I am the right person for the job I should be hired for the job.

Exactly... sadly, this isn't how the real world works. It is more about your gender and the color of your skin....

If you are a Hispanic, Black, or Asian female veteran, with a disability, you get top billing. Seems pretty clear to me.

Some people are more equal than others.

Jim

Got your " let me obvious " book out today, jim?

quote Originally posted by Fats: A business advertises EOE, to me that means everyone is equal.

hahahaha that right there is funny

If you are a gay Hispanic female with a black "significant partner" and you have been discharged from the military you are good. You have most of the bases covered.

Or illegal alien undocumented worker citizen trespasser person.

quote Originally posted by jaskispyder: Exactly... sadly, this isn't how the real world works. It is more about your gender and the color of your skin....

.....and in the case of unions..... advancement based on "who stepped through the door first" (no matter how lazy you are).

quote Originally posted by Fats: I'm a bit slow on the uptake here, but is anyone else irritated by this? A business advertises EOE, to me that means everyone is equal. Then, on the same page they advertise that they give hiring preference to Military, Disabled, Women, and Minorities. (But not in that order. MINORITY/FEMALE/DISABILITY/VETERAN) Why are we pretending to be equal opportunity, when everyone except one group gets preferential treatment? That really doesn't seem "equal". .. Brad

Oh yeah, I've mentioned this before, no one wanted to talk about it. IN my experience there are basically quotas. Its not written (well it is but not clearly), but what this also means is if there are performance based reviews they have to grade on curves to keep teh minority employed. Whatever that may be, even alternative sexual preference takes priority. Also in customer facing positions they hire the people who look like the customers that live in that area. Claiming it makes the customers more comfortable and more open to being a customer.
However it does discriminate against anyone else who wants that job, theres no ifs ands of buts about that. IMO
It happens in many places.

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