Engineer, or bean counter so you engineers don't have fits, who decided it was a good idea to put a rubber gas line between the fuel pump and steel line that goes over the engine to the rubber line that goes to the carburetor, with absolutely no space between the fuel pump and the steel line so that you have to pull the fuel pump to change that 2" section of rubber hose between them.
WTF were they thinking?
Steve
------------------ Technology is great when it works, and one big pain in the ass when it doesn't
It's a challenge, Steve. When you can get this disassembled, then repaired, you can stand back and yell, " I am better than those engineers! " You will probably word that differently.
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Engineer, or bean counter so you engineers don't have fits, who decided it was a good idea to put a rubber gas line between the fuel pump and steel line that goes over the engine to the rubber line that goes to the carburetor, with absolutely no space between the fuel pump and the steel line so that you have to pull the fuel pump to change that 2" section of rubber hose between them.
WTF were they thinking?
Steve
Get a longer hose and make a 360° bend. Much easier to work on next time.
Get a longer hose and make a 360° bend. Much easier to work on next time.
the dam steel line actually touches the fuel pump exit tube, you don't even have room to do that, WTF were they thinking. So I couldn't even do that if I wanted to, there is no fkn room, not even a MM they are actually touching each other and they don't fkn move.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
And oh ya, this is on a dam lawn tractor, a dam ;lawn tractor with all sorts of room to make that a little bit easier but could they NOOOOOOOOO.
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Originally posted by motoracer838:
If I ever get my hands on the engineers that designed the first gen S10 Blazer's, I'll make them work on it.
Joe
I actually would love to do that to a few myself, WTF were they thinking!
Steve
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My wifes grand prix had G B A N A O X U S L L T T E T A H N E K A D So in order to remove the bolt from the axle to the rear links I had to lower the axle. When I reassembled I put the nut on the inside between the tank and axle. Now if I ever have to replace I just pull the bolt.
There is a huge scandal going on right now with Union ran auto parts manufacturing plants setting up price fixing cartels that resulted in consumers paying billions of dollars more for auto parts and automobiles.
Is the fuel sending unit or tractor still under warranty? If not, the engineer did his / her job. Nothing lasts for ever and not everything is designed to be serviced. Saving money or simplifying assembly at the factory is more important than making the part easy to service long after the warranty has expired.
Originally posted by Purple86GT: Is the fuel sending unit or tractor still under warranty? If not, the engineer did his / her job. Nothing lasts for ever and not everything is designed to be serviced. Saving money or simplifying assembly at the factory is more important than making the part easy to service long after the warranty has expired.
the fuel pump is just a couple of years old at most but obviously out of warranty, so that's out, if the weather is better today I will have Melanie mow some more. The tractor itself is like a 92 or something like that, I got it cheap as it needed the frame welded because the previous owner had like a 4'+ snow blower on it.
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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Here is a radical idea for ya
Redneck injuneer it with a hacksaw or tube cutter to give yourself an inch or so of room.
I actually thought of that for about a min, then said screw it, it was really not that bad but needed something else to rant about today and give some of the engineers on here something to make excuses for, they are always good at making excuses for their designs stupidity. sure save a Penney over the build of thousands of products and the company saves millions and makes things so impossible to repair that the repairmen and women have something to biatch about. I swear that is their motivation sometimes.
this really was more of a thread to just show how many stupid things engineers do to them here on the forum. I knew I would get a lot of people complaining about how badly some things are engineered and wanted to throw that up in their faces to show them that it is not just me that thinks some of the crap they design is done so badly. Sure it saves the company money, sure it is only designed to last so long, that doesn't mean the rest of us have to like it.
Just wanted to show some of you engineer types, just how popular you are with the average guy! whether its your fault or not. I guess I did that. Steve
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I'm sure every Engineer here grinned at that video. Mission accomplished! LOL!
Seeing they are in the minority at least posting in this thread anyway I could care less. The ones I have the most problem with are the ones who have to make excuses for their own badly designed products, like the bolt put in, in the wrong direction so that you have to take the gas tank out or some other part of the product out just to change a bolt as stated above by someone else. Or the ones at GM who said,
"It worked on paper!" or "The computer said it worked!" or any number of other excuses for why something wouldn't line up like, We had a door pad they put the carrot, (What we called the attaching pins on the door pads) in the wrong place so instead of fixing the problem they told us to leave the carrot out and gave us a quart size bottle of super glue to glue that part of the door pad to the door. WTF moron thought that repair up?
I got a million of them and not just from GM engineers, many just out of college with that degree who just couldn't accept the fact that someone on the floor just might know a little bit more than they did about anything. if those kids would at least listen to the guys on the floor or about how something wasn't working.
I actually thought of that for about a min, then said screw it, it was really not that bad but needed something else to rant about today and give some of the engineers on here something to make excuses for, they are always good at making excuses for their designs stupidity. sure save a Penney over the build of thousands of products and the company saves millions and makes things so impossible to repair that the repairmen and women have something to biatch about. I swear that is their motivation sometimes.
this really was more of a thread to just show how many stupid things engineers do to them here on the forum. I knew I would get a lot of people complaining about how badly some things are engineered and wanted to throw that up in their faces to show them that it is not just me that thinks some of the crap they design is done so badly. Sure it saves the company money, sure it is only designed to last so long, that doesn't mean the rest of us have to like it.
Just wanted to show some of you engineer types, just how popular you are with the average guy! whether its your fault or not. I guess I did that. Steve
Take out the engine, design one better, put it in! Mission accomplished.
I don't really care what others think of me. A lot of stuff is designed poorly--I just try and make it so mine isn't.
But my company thinks highly of me, and pays me well for it. Keep your moaning; I'll take your tears all the way to the bank!
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Originally posted by 84fiero123:
rant off
Steve
I don't think it ever is, Steve. You'll complain about the same **** tomorrow.
They were tinking "How can we build this as cheaply as possible" and didn't give a flying frack about the guy that has to fix it.
You hit on it.....I see this crap all the time. My biggest gripe body wise, is who would think designing a car that the whole front end has to be disassembed to change the headlite BULB (not the headlite assmby). Caddy guys bring them to me to change and depending on model I charge $150-$200 labor to replace the bulbs.
Originally posted by rogergarrison: You hit on it.....I see this crap all the time. My biggest gripe body wise, is who would think designing a car that the whole front end has to be disassembed to change the headlite BULB (not the headlite assmby). Caddy guys bring them to me to change and depending on model I charge $150-$200 labor to replace the bulbs.
That's one I almost didn't believe when you told us about those Roger, I remember that thread and one about a tail light I think it was in a caddy you had. WTF are the engineers that far behind in the times that they still use the old bulbs still? I remember when caddy lead the industry with new things. those fiber optic headlight/parking light things on the fenders that showed you they were working. now that was an innovation that was great and ahead of its time. but for them to still be using old style bulbs in places that are so inaccessible it takes hours and hundreds of dollars worth of tools to replace a simple light bulb, WTF, why aren't they LEDs now, hell even my old 94 Burb uses LEDs for the third brake light and the rest are just 2 screws you have to remove for the rest of the brake lights. What was wrong with the 2 screws in the lens or right behind it on lights to remove them and replace them? I mean come on.
there are several reasons some have to do with corrosion, some with vibration, and some with line pressures and if it were a modern Fool Injected engine, there is also conductivity but, cant you slide the 2" rubber all the way onto the steel line, then slide it back down onto the pump fitting?
there are several reasons some have to do with corrosion, some with vibration, and some with line pressures and if it were a modern Fool Injected engine, there is also conductivity but, cant you slide the 2" rubber all the way onto the steel line, then slide it back down onto the pump fitting?
NO, I will actually go to the trouble, tomorrow of taking it apart, yet again just to show just how close the tubes are, they actually touch each other when the rubber hose is off them. but I will remove the fuel pump to get the rubber hose off, then put the fuel pump back on and take a picture of just exactly how close these two are, there is no room to do it any other way than to remove the fuel pump.
To replace the rubber hose I had to cut the original off and then realized the only way I was going to get the new one off was to remove the fuel pump.
Steve
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Originally posted by 84fiero123: NO, I will actually go to the trouble, tomorrow of taking it apart, yet again just to show just how close the tubes are, they actually touch each other when the rubber hose is off them. but I will remove the fuel pump to get the rubber hose off, then put the fuel pump back on and take a picture of just exactly how close these two are, there is no room to do it any other way than to remove the fuel pump.
To replace the rubber hose I had to cut the original off and then realized the only way I was going to get the new one off was to remove the fuel pump.
Steve
no need. I dont doubt it one bit. the level of thought that went into car design back in the carb days is laughable. tho, I must admit some of todays design is can be ponderous as well......but I'll take todays over yesteryears all day long.
no play in the steel line? cant get more space at all? maybe add some bends to give enough room to get the rubber all the way on one, then slide down onto the other? but, again, I am sure if you could have you would have already.
I did pull the rubber hose out and take pictures, but stupid me I took them with my cell phone and sent them to my email, they never got there. but believe me they are touching and it is just 1" of rubber hose with 2 of those squeeze hose clamps. no there is no way to bend anything and make it easier to change that hose. but I did pull the carb bowl and it did have black crap in it from before I changed the hoses so I tried mowing a little and of course the mower belt went. last time Melanie mowed she got a branch or something under the belt and it burned up in seconds. WTF I can't win, I just got a new belt and will put it on in the morning and see what happens.
