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Brit arrested for quoting Winston Churchill by Formula88
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Report this Post04-29-2014 08:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
A Brit, in Britain, was arrested by British police for quoting former British PM Winston Churchill's remarks about Islam. He'll now be branded with the scarlet "R."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...campaign-speech.html

 
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Arrested for quoting Winston Churchill: European election candidate accused of religious and racial harassment after he repeats wartime prime minister’s words on Islam during campaign speech

Paul Weston was arrested on the steps of Winchester's Guildhall
Chairman of Liberty GB was detained on suspicion of racial harrassment
He quoted a passage from Winston Churchill's 1899 book The River War


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Put that bastard in the lowest holding cellar and throw away the key!!!!!!!!


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Report this Post04-29-2014 10:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rinselbergClick Here to visit rinselberg's HomePageSend a Private Message to rinselbergEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I don't know. Maybe I misread the report the first time that I went thru it.

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The quotation was something that Churchill said in 1899 or even before. He could well have come to regret it by the time that he had become a world figure.

Not his finest hour: The dark side of Winston Churchill
http://www.independent.co.u...urchill-2118317.html

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Report this Post04-30-2014 12:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ZebSend a Private Message to ZebEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
He was busted for "Failure to Disperse" because the cops told him to "move along", and he didn't. Not like it was a formal campaign rally, or he had a permit. They threw in the other thing as an afterthought.
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Report this Post04-30-2014 12:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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A member of the public took offence at the quote, taken from Churchill's The River War and called police.
Police officers arrested Mr Weston, mid-speech, for failing to comply with their request to move on under the powers of a dispersal order made against him.
He was further arrested on suspicion of religious or racial harrassment.


He was asked to leave because someone was offended.
They arrested him for not leaving...after 40 minutes of questioning... and religious or racial harassment.

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Report this Post04-30-2014 12:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DanDamageSend a Private Message to DanDamageEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
last brit i know that was arrested was The Man in the Iron Mask
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A member of the public took offence at the quote... and called police.


Quoted for a sign of the times.
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Report this Post04-30-2014 12:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rinselbergClick Here to visit rinselberg's HomePageSend a Private Message to rinselbergEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I found the report that the OP gave (link) was kind of sketchy.

If this campaigner just set himself up with a megaphone (or a loud voice) at a place and time of his own choosing, without any prior understanding with the municipal powers that be, than I approve of what the police did.

A few months ago, I was downtown when some guy with a megaphone was preaching about his religious ideas. He was audible for two short city blocks in every direction and unnervingly loud. If he had a permit, I wish it had not been granted. If he did not have a permit, I wish the police would have come to make him stop. Maybe they did--after I departed the area.
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Report this Post04-30-2014 01:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Does taking offense to what someone says in public equal being harassed? The speaker would get arrested for harassment?
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Originally posted by 2.5:

Does taking offense to what someone says in public equal being harassed? The speaker would get arrested for harassment?


Apparently so.
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Originally posted by 2.5:

Does taking offense to what someone says in public equal being harassed? The speaker would get arrested for harassment?


But then can't I be offended by you making me stop, which I consider harassment? If you follow me all over filing complaints, that'd be harassment, right?

This can just go around forever. Unless the first one to be offended is always right.

I'm already offended by your response. Whatever it may be. You can have NO possible inoffensive answer.
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Report this Post04-30-2014 05:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
How about online?

You have throughly offended me, now go to jail!

CLICK FOR FULL SIZE

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Originally posted by Zeb:

Unless the first one to be offended is always right.




Intolerance = violence.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

The quotation was something that Churchill said in 1899 or even before. He could well have come to regret it by the time that he had become a world figure.

Not his finest hour: The dark side of Winston Churchill
http://www.independent.co.u...urchill-2118317.html



To me, I think that's the point. In today's world, if Churchill was running for election, this would have been 'front page news' in ads from his opponent, no matter how long ago he said it, and his campaign ended before it ever began.
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