I let my friends son shoot it and it jams AGAIN, AGAIN, and AGAIN. It jammed three times in seven rounds. Before anyone asks.....yes, it does get maintained.
Kimber has "looked" at it for this issue when I first bought it and found no issues. After them sending me a new slide catch it seemed to take care of the problem or so I thought. I've put 200-ish rounds through this thing with no issues till now. I've not switched ammo type or brand either. It just doesn't make sense.
Most likely will clean it up again and trade it in on my favorite brand.......Taurus. I've never had any issues with my cheap little Taurus brand. I guess Kimber is just a name after all. Lesson learned.
Ah, well. I just had to vent somewhere and it might as well be here.
I let my friends son shoot it and it jams AGAIN, AGAIN, and AGAIN. It jammed three times in seven rounds. Before anyone asks.....yes, it does get maintained.
Kimber has "looked" at it for this issue when I first bought it and found no issues. After them sending me a new slide catch it seemed to take care of the problem or so I thought. I've put 200-ish rounds through this thing with no issues till now. I've not switched ammo type or brand either. It just doesn't make sense.
Most likely will clean it up again and trade it in on my favorite brand.......Taurus. I've never had any issues with my cheap little Taurus brand. I guess Kimber is just a name after all. Lesson learned.
Ah, well. I just had to vent somewhere and it might as well be here.
What kinda Kimber, it could just need a polishing to the ramp to the chamber.
I let my friends son shoot it and it jams AGAIN, AGAIN, and AGAIN. It jammed three times in seven rounds. Before anyone asks.....yes, it does get maintained.
Kimber has "looked" at it for this issue when I first bought it and found no issues. After them sending me a new slide catch it seemed to take care of the problem or so I thought. I've put 200-ish rounds through this thing with no issues till now. I've not switched ammo type or brand either. It just doesn't make sense.
Most likely will clean it up again and trade it in on my favorite brand.......Taurus. I've never had any issues with my cheap little Taurus brand. I guess Kimber is just a name after all. Lesson learned.
Ah, well. I just had to vent somewhere and it might as well be here.
3 family members own a combined 6 Kimbers. Custom, Custom II, Raptor, Master Carry, Covert and one other I can't remember. The Raptor is picky about cheap ammo, but the rest are virtually flawless. Any kind of ammo at any time as fast as you can pull the trigger. The Custom II has had about $700 worth of additional work done to it and it's a DREAM to shoot.
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3 family members own a combined 6 Kimbers. Custom, Custom II, Raptor, Master Carry, Covert and one other I can't remember. The Raptor is picky about cheap ammo, but the rest are virtually flawless. Any kind of ammo at any time as fast as you can pull the trigger. The Custom II has had about $700 worth of additional work done to it and it's a DREAM to shoot.
I'm glad they don't have issues. Mine is good for a paper weight.
I had a Walther PPK that used to jam on hollow points. I've heard several different stories regarding "improved reliability" since S&W bought them. (Since we're talking about "names" vs reliability.)
My next "compact" will likely be a Bersa Thunder 380. I've heard nothing but good reviews.
I had a Walther PPK that used to jam on hollow points. I've heard several different stories regarding "improved reliability" since S&W bought them. (Since we're talking about "names" vs reliability.)
My next "compact" will likely be a Bersa Thunder 380. I've heard nothing but good reviews.
I LOVE my 380 thunder. Make sure you get the carry model though, the one I have is not the carry model and the sights dig into your waist when sitting down.
Originally posted by pontiackid86: Get a full frame glock, I had a 27 and hated it, it was way to small a gun for the size round
I agree, we have 2 Glock 17s and never had a jamb with any kind of ammo, I did buy a box of trulio I think its called Russian ammo for target shooting and have yet to try that so I may have spoke to soon or jinxed myself. a small carry gun is good for concealment but start firing high power calibers and it can be painful for your hand.
find a gun shop that has a range and will let you try the guns before you buy them, or just a range that rents them.
Steve
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find a gun shop that has a range and will let you try the guns before you buy them, or just a range that rents them.
Steve
There is one that you speak of, Steve. It's in the next county over. I guess I'll venture over and have a look-see. Maybe I'll trade off my high dollar paper weight for something useful.
How does it jam? How many rounds have been through it? Does it fail to eject, or fail to feed? Does it happen with all magazines? (magazines that you've tested and work ok in other guns?)
When you say the ramp was polished - who did the work? Did they know what they were doing?
My next "compact" will likely be a Bersa Thunder 380. I've heard nothing but good reviews.
I have several friends that have had or still own one - never heard a single complaint about them. Great little guns.
I have a Tanfoglio T95/EAA Witness chambered in .45 ACP. Steel frame, 10+1 capacity, carry cocked and locked. It's a heavy gun but groups very well and has very little recoil. I'd like a polymer frame version for carry, though.
I did buy a box of trulio I think its called Russian ammo for target shooting and have yet to try that so I may have spoke to soon or jinxed myself.
TulAmmo? Stuff shoots alright but is dirty as hell... A friend ran 150 rounds of it through his 1911 without any issues but it took forever to clean it afterward.
How does it jam? This time the round wouldn't go into the chamber.
How many rounds have been through it? Close to 300 of my own. Not sure how many Kimber themselves ran through it when they had it.
Does it fail to eject, or fail to feed? When I first bought it it jammed when ejecting. Now it won't feed.
Does it happen with all magazines? (magazines that you've tested and work ok in other guns?) To be honest I was so fed up with it that I decided then that it was getting traded off.
When you say the ramp was polished - who did the work? Did they know what they were doing? I hope they knew what they were doing. Kimber did the "work".
Maybe the amount of rounds I've put through this gun may not be enough. I have put around the same through my Taurus .45 and 9mm. Actually more rounds have been through the 9mm.
I LOVE my 380 thunder. Make sure you get the carry model though, the one I have is not the carry model and the sights dig into your waist when sitting down.
I have to agree with loving my Bersa. I have the Bersa 380 Combat model I bought about 3 months ago. I've taken it to the range a couple of times and it's been a joy to shoot. The features it has also are really nice for the price. It has more features than the SCCY CPX-1 9mm I had before it until my wife took it over. That was another nice firearm for the price. I've never owned or fired a Kimber though so I can't compare but I am happy with the Bersa and SCCY that we do own.
What kind of ammo are you running? Do you have different mags to try? Those should be the first things you look at and swap out. Give it at least 500 rounds and see how if it improves at all. If it still acts up trade/sell it and pick up a Sig P220
I have several friends that have had or still own one - never heard a single complaint about them. Great little guns.
I have a Tanfoglio T95/EAA Witness chambered in .45 ACP. Steel frame, 10+1 capacity, carry cocked and locked. It's a heavy gun but groups very well and has very little recoil. I'd like a polymer frame version for carry, though.
My dad just bought a Witness chambered in 9mm, I think. (Maybe .40? He's got so many 9's and 40's I can't keep straight what's what) Took it out of the box at the range, put 50 rounds of cheap ball ammunition through and then went and qualified 238 out of 240 for the local Sheriff's department(less than 2 hours later) with it as his 'badged off-duty weapon'. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet as my right bicep tendon is still royally jacked, but he likes it almost as much as he likes his Springfield XD-series' pistols(He has 5).
I have an ISSC M22 and was jambing on every mag even using HV 22's, Froglubed it and it now runs CCI SV's with no FTL or FTE's anymore.
I use it on my Taurus PT709 Slim and has 0 issues so far with maybe 75-80 rounds through it, the 709 comes from the factory with a polished feed ramp and only cost me $225 sweet little gun!
Hummmm, speaking of which, seems like a nice range day today to put some more rounds through the 709 . . . . .
TulAmmo? Stuff shoots alright but is dirty as hell... A friend ran 150 rounds of it through his 1911 without any issues but it took forever to clean it afterward.
ya I think that's it, but Glock's are know to be able to fire anything, they just don't recommend lead slugs but any jacketed ammo they say you can use. as far as cleaning, I would hate to gum up the works and have to soak everything in solvent to clean the dam thing. I love our Glock's. best dam pistols we have ever owned and I had a 1911 as a kid, 18 and thought it was a dam dependable pistol, just kicked like a mule, 45 was just to much for me at 18 years old. I may have to try one again now that I am ancient
How does it jam? This time the round wouldn't go into the chamber.
How many rounds have been through it? Close to 300 of my own. Not sure how many Kimber themselves ran through it when they had it.
Does it fail to eject, or fail to feed? When I first bought it it jammed when ejecting. Now it won't feed.
Does it happen with all magazines? (magazines that you've tested and work ok in other guns?) To be honest I was so fed up with it that I decided then that it was getting traded off.
When you say the ramp was polished - who did the work? Did they know what they were doing? I hope they knew what they were doing. Kimber did the "work".
Maybe the amount of rounds I've put through this gun may not be enough. I have put around the same through my Taurus .45 and 9mm. Actually more rounds have been through the 9mm.
Kimber recommends a 500 round break-in period. If Kimber did the polish work, it should be ok. I'm curious, your first post says you didn't have problems for 200 rounds, so you've only had the problem for the last 100 rounds? As for "maintaining" the gun - you should be able to shoot that much without any maintenance or cleaning.
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Kimber recommends a 500 round break-in period. If Kimber did the polish work, it should be ok. I'm curious, your first post says you didn't have problems for 200 rounds, so you've only had the problem for the last 100 rounds? As for "maintaining" the gun - you should be able to shoot that much without any maintenance or cleaning.
Maybe I haven't given this gun a chance, but I still don't trust it to carry it. I have put more than 500 in my Taurus's, but none of them have ever given me grief and they're at least half the cost.
I do clean my guns after every range time that I get in. Over cleaning on my part maybe? Donno. Bottom line though......I don't trust it therefore it goes. My friends cousin is a gun dealer. I'm going to see what he has to trade for it.
This thread was more of a rage/rant session. As soon as I find something that I like it will be gone. Thanks for the input.
Originally posted by Formula88: Kimber recommends a 500 round break-in period. If Kimber did the polish work, it should be ok. I'm curious, your first post says you didn't have problems for 200 rounds, so you've only had the problem for the last 100 rounds? As for "maintaining" the gun - you should be able to shoot that much without any maintenance or cleaning.
I don't get that, 500 round brake in, WTF my Glock's never needed any brake in and they never jammed or any problems with feed or anything else. why would you need to spend that much time, money and practice at a target range just to have a dependable pistol? any of the pistols that were good ones never had a brake in period. WTF if it doesn't work out of the box something is wrong as far as I am concerned. Steve
I understand. You have to trust the tools you use. Let me know what you get offered for it. I'm curious how much they'll bring used. I've been thinking about picking up a 3" 1911. I really like the Kimber Master Carry, but they're a bit pricey.
I have a Springfield XDs for my EDC. It's slightly smaller and lighter then the Kimber Ultra, plus a good bit thinner. 5+1 in .45, or 7+1 in 9mm. They're around $550 new, IIRC. I really like it. If you like the size of the Kimber, it might be worth looking at. If you do get one, make sure the recall work has been done. If you do get one without the recall work, it's free and Springfield will send you a free extended magazine when you get it back for your trouble.
I stopped across the street from my job ( gun shop ) to see what they had. I looked at the Taurus Millenium .45 and a Glock .45. Liked them both.
Since the gun shop opened up a year and half ago my place of business has been nicer to their employees. I wonder why........ ( not really, but it sounded good )
Before I bought the Kimber I glanced at the XD series. Now I wish I bought that instead.
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unless I am drunk, possible I had 2 beers and don't drink like I used to, 2 cases a day, but I am prescribed 3 beers a week and sometimes have 2 after lunch to help the pain pills kick in. but at $20 a box of 50 rounds, 50 rounds divided into 500 rounds to brake the gun in, that would be 10 boxes of ammo at 20 bucks a box = $200 bucks to brake a pistol in, WTF, by then its a dam use gun.
Sorry maybe its me, but I never had a problem with my 1911 and I never fired 500 rounds threw it before I sold it and never had any problems with that. have fired several thousand rounds between the 2 Glock 17s we have and never had any problems with them ether. now I haven't tried the Springfield's, like them, just never had the opportunity to use one but like the shape, feel in my hand and way they are made. just never had any first hand experience with them so I really can't say one way or the other about their quality or reliability but WTF, 500 rounds to brake a gun in just sounds like BS to me.
I hope Aceman posts on this subject, I am sure he has more experience with pistols of all makes than all of us put together. I just sent him a PM and hope he is around and not to busy to post on the thread.
Steve
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BREAK-IN PERIOD Before firing the pistol for the first time, Field Strip and clean the firearm following proper procedures (see DISASSEMBLY, CLEANING and LUBRICATION and ASSEMBLY Instructions in this Manual). Kimbers firearms are quality custom pieces. Our firearms are hand fitted to tight tolerances. For proper Break-in of the firearm shoot 400-500 rounds of Quality Factory Ball (230g. FMJ). Ammunition, cleaning and lubricating the gun every 100-150 rounds.
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Originally posted by Formula88: Our firearms are hand fitted to tight tolerances.
That may be the problem, ever notice the difference in 1911, Glock's and guns more prone to feed/jam problems, I think it was ether Aceman or maybe it was Don that said those guns have the slop in the actions to make them more dependable in other than ideal conditions and using less than the best ammo. I could be wrong I have been before but I am pretty sure that's what they said. now with a bolt action that may not be true or maybe it is as well, hell all I know is that my 1911 and Glock's had never given me any problems.
That may be the problem, ever notice the difference in 1911, Glock's and guns more prone to feed/jam problems, I think it was ether Aceman or maybe it was Don that said those guns have the slop in the actions to make them more dependable in other than ideal conditions and using less than the best ammo. I could be wrong I have been before but I am pretty sure that's what they said. now with a bolt action that may not be true or maybe it is as well, hell all I know is that my 1911 and Glock's had never given me any problems.
Steve
More slop also means less accurate. it's a trade off. It's like comparing an AR15 to an AK47.
I have a Glock 19 and a 23. They are the same exact gun except for the caliber. In fact my Blackhawk Serpa holster works for both. They are my everyday carry guns. They are light dependable, and do not have an external safety, which I prefer. I also have the Bersa thunder .380. It is probably my best, and favorite gun. I use it when I need to really conceal without a bulge. I haven't heard of any issue with Kimber's other than they do not like cheap ammo, so break it in, and only buy the good stuff for it. Or you could just send it to me.
Originally posted by kyunderdawg: I let my friends son shoot it and it jams AGAIN, AGAIN, and AGAIN...
When I was in the market for a new 1911 I was looking at Kimber. While researching owner's opinion of reliability there were a lot of guys who complained about fail to feed. The most common response I saw from Kimber was proper grip, they didn't think people had a firm grip when firing which was causing the malfunction. That reason alone I shied away from Kimber. They do make some very handsome 1911s though.
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Originally posted by kyunderdawg: I've not switched ammo type or brand either. It just doesn't make sense.
This. Change your ammo up. Some pistols are picky. Have you tried anything different than hollow points?
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The thought crossed my mind. Talked to the gun dealer across the street from work. He wouldn't give be a ballpark figure of what trade-in would be for this gun. Now come on, really? It's a Kimber and no ballpark number.
More slop also means less accurate. it's a trade off. It's like comparing an AR15 to an AK47.
not from what I have seen, the slop is in the action to allow for dirt, grime and powder residue not to the barrel when in the fire position my wife and I are both very accurate with ours, 25' and a half dollar size pattern.
Before anyone asks.....yes, it does get maintained. 
I've never had any issues with my cheap little Taurus brand. I guess Kimber is just a name after all. Lesson learned. 
( not really, but it sounded good )
Talked to the gun dealer across the street from work. He wouldn't give be a ballpark figure of what trade-in would be for this gun. Now come on, really? It's a Kimber 
and no ballpark number. 
