Histories most recorded event 2010 years ago was the death ,burial, & resurection of a jew ,,this was a time when history could be recorded & the poobahs wanted to know what was happenning among the unwashed peasants & assorted big Bong sucking riff raff living in thier moms basement & partying all night Imagine the King ?? A.D. 10 looking over his subjects at a rally (Scan by NSA) & thinking,Im loosing touch with the dope smoking Scum !! . ,he wanted events wriitten down so atheist & other toaster heads with empty souls would know in some vaque way thier was an alternative to nothing, thousands of years later
I thought they found the dusty bones of Jesus body in some burial catacombs along with the rest of his family and brothers. For Jesus was born onto a well off family and became a Rabbi who believed and preached an apocalyptic version of Judaism.
Easter is a Pagan holiday for which Christians would take over this holiday when they decided to worship the stories of Jesus in the 300-year AD era, before that Christians didn't celebrate Easter.
But even today, other than the posers who go to church today, the secular tradition of Easter is what dominates today and makes it fun.
I'm going to enjoy watching happy children hunt Easter eggs, I'm going to feast and bite the heads off marshmallow Peeps.
Wichita --- Philippians 2:10-11 says, "that at the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." The only question is, will you do this while you're still alive or when you die and Jesus is judging you and tossing you into the fiery pit of Hell? Believe what you want now. In the end, you WILL believe. I hope it's not too late.
Stan --- My math shows 1981 years ago. Jesus was born in 0000 and was 33 years old when He was crucified, buried and rose from the dead (33AD). It's now 2014AD. (2014-33=1981)
Wichita --- Philippians 2:10-11 says, "that at the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." The only question is, will you do this while you're still alive or when you die and Jesus is judging you and tossing you into the fiery pit of Hell? Believe what you want now. In the end, you WILL believe. I hope it's not too late.
Stan --- My math shows 1981 years ago. Jesus was born in 0000 and was 33 years old when He was crucified, buried and rose from the dead (33AD). It's now 2014AD. (2014-33=1981)
Not worried about it. Because in the end, I will not have the capacity to believe or not to believe, because I will be dead.
The exact dates are unknown,,Jesus was not born in december they do have a better idea of when he was Crucified,, a routine type/ form of execution,,he was a famous leader when he T.O the poobahs of his time.. 2000 years is just a round out .. many celebrate the faith they have in Jesus ,, the weak in spirit & those who can not read the writting on the wall ,will always be with us to aid & help our enemies... & to destroy America Gods hand was on the creation of America God was responsible for the stunning success of America the people of America have let god down,just like sodom & Gomorah & tribulations have come !! rejoice & accept the lord Jesus in your heart & Life Jesus is the bright light of the World,,we are his shinning city
I thought they found the dusty bones of Jesus body in some burial catacombs along with the rest of his family and brothers. For Jesus was born onto a well off family and became a Rabbi who believed and preached an apocalyptic version of Judaism.
Easter is a Pagan holiday for which Christians would take over this holiday when they decided to worship the stories of Jesus in the 300-year AD era, before that Christians didn't celebrate Easter.
But even today, other than the posers who go to church today, the secular tradition of Easter is what dominates today and makes it fun.
I'm going to enjoy watching happy children hunt Easter eggs, I'm going to feast and bite the heads off marshmallow Peeps.
Easter is a Pagan holiday for which Christians would take over this holiday when they decided to worship the stories of Jesus in the 300-year AD era, before that Christians didn't celebrate Easter.
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Yep, celebrating the spring equinox. It's also a celebration of fertility. Rabbits and eggs, duh.
The exact dates are unknown,,Jesus was not born in december
Doesn't matter the exact date He was born. BTW, I stand corrected. Turns out there is no Year Zero. 1AD comes just after 1BC. I didn't know that. So...Christ Jesus was born in 1AD. That's the year He had to be born. BC is Before Christ, AD (Anno Domini) is In The Year of Our Lord. Couldn't be any year of "Our Lord" before there WAS "Our Lord". I know, I know. It wasn't established until about 550AD, etc. Still, someone had to figure it out. I highly doubt they just guessed.
Doesn't matter the exact date He was born. BTW, I stand corrected. Turns out there is no Year Zero. 1AD comes just after 1BC. I didn't know that. So...Christ Jesus was born in 1AD. That's the year He had to be born. BC is Before Christ, AD (Anno Domini) is In The Year of Our Lord. Couldn't be any year of "Our Lord" before there WAS "Our Lord". I know, I know. It wasn't established until about 550AD, etc. Still, someone had to figure it out. I highly doubt they just guessed.
The calendar has changed in the last couple millennia. http://www.timeanddate.com/...regorian-switch.html It's not like you can just roll back the odometer to 0 (or 1) and say that's when it happened because that's where the numbers start. A year today isn't the same length of time as a year 2000 years ago.
Some scholars think that he was born between 6 B.C. and 4 B.C., based partly on the biblical story of Herod the Great. Not long before Herod's demise, which is believed to have occurred in 4 B.C., the ruler of Judea supposedly ordered the death of all male infants who were under the age of two and lived in the vicinity of Bethlehem, in an attempt to kill Jesus.
But historians disagree about Herod's actual year of death. What's more, the horrific mass infanticide is legend, not fact, Reza Aslan, a biblical scholar and author of "Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth" (Random House, 2013), told PolicyMic.
To pinpoint Jesus' birth year, other scholars have tried to correlate the "Star of Bethlehem," which supposedly heralded Jesus' birth, with actual astronomical events. For example, in a 1991 article in the Quarterly Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society, astronomer Colin Humphreys proposed that the fabled star was actually a slow-moving comet, which Chinese observers recorded in 5 B.C.
Scholars also debate the month of Jesus' birth. In 2008, astronomer Dave Reneke argued that Jesus was born in the summer. The Star of Bethlehem, Reneke told New Scientist, may have been Venus and Jupiter coming together to form a bright light in the sky. Using computer models, Reneke determined that this rare event occurred on June 17, in the year 2 B.C.
Other researchers have claimed that a similar conjunction, one between Saturn and Jupiter, occurred in October of 7 B.C., making Jesus an autumn baby.
Theologians have also suggested that Jesus was born in the spring, based on the biblical narrative that shepherds were watching over their flocks in the fields on the night of Jesus' birth — something they would have done in the spring, not the winter.
No, Neils, it isn't the same. Actually, various cultures have counted the time in a year in different ways, but mostly based on a solar or lunar year. All calendars have required adding time at some point to account for the differences in a solar and lunar year.
Too many people are trying to be their own masters, rather than allowing themselves to be God's masterpiece. I had a wonderful Easter! Hope you all did too.
Wichita --- Philippians 2:10-11 says, "that at the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." The only question is, will you do this while you're still alive or when you die and Jesus is judging you and tossing you into the fiery pit of Hell? Believe what you want now. In the end, you WILL believe. I hope it's not too late.
Stan --- My math shows 1981 years ago. Jesus was born in 0000 and was 33 years old when He was crucified, buried and rose from the dead (33AD). It's now 2014AD. (2014-33=1981)
nobody knows when he was born or when he died DAY OR MONTH OR YEAR or how old he was there was no ZERO YEAR the ACE/AD count year #1 comes after BCE/BC year #1 with NO 0000 YEAR
the christian religion was invented/made up by saul/paul who never saw JC on earth alive saul/paul wrote you quote [maybe
Ill agree it may be the most talked or written about event. As far as being recorded for history, Im going with man landing on the moon and JFK assassination.
Really? We went around the sun at a different rate back then?
No, Beavis. Ancient calendars didn't accurately track with our planetary orbit, which is why they were changed. Better hurry, or you'll miss your school bus...
No, Beavis. Ancient calendars didn't accurately track with our planetary orbit, which is why they were changed. Better hurry, or you'll miss your school bus...
I was trying to be humorous with my comment...but I must admit, your school bus pic had me rolling on the floor
But...point to note...even the ancient civil Egyptian calendar had a year that was 365 days long and was divided into 12 months of 30 days each. Using the sun/seasons as the basis for the calendar isn't something new. Don't worry...room on that bus for you too.
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Ill agree it may be the most talked or written about event. As far as being recorded for history, Im going with man landing on the moon and JFK assassination.
Let's see if JFK's death is still memorialized in 20 centuries. Very few things stand up to the test of time.
Let's see if JFK's death is still memorialized in 20 centuries. Very few things stand up to the test of time.
I did say its one of the most recorded=documented events. Whether its memorialized is a diff question... Were still talking about King Tut 5000 years later....
Ya I was thinking along similar lines...but I picked one 'event'
As for Pearl Harbor, Ill bet money that lots of high school, even college kids,dont even know what that is unless maybe its a spring break destination. For fun ask some and see what they say...
I guess why I picked the WTC was because I was watching it "live" when the 2nd plane hit and again live when the towers collapsed, all while it was being recorded. There were no video or audio recorders during some of these other events, but anyway I get the OPs original intent which was not what I immediately thought of when I read the thread title.
No, Beavis. Ancient calendars didn't accurately track with our planetary orbit, which is why they were changed. Better hurry, or you'll miss your school bus...
But...point to note...even the ancient civil Egyptian calendar had a year that was 365 days long and was divided into 12 months of 30 days each. Using the sun/seasons as the basis for the calendar isn't something new. Don't worry...room on that bus for you too.
And how much of the world has used the ancient civil Egyptian calendar over the last 2000 years? The Mayans had an accurate calendar, too, but if your society isn't using it, it doesn't make much difference, does it?
And how much of the world has used the ancient civil Egyptian calendar over the last 2000 years? The Mayans had an accurate calendar, too, but if your society isn't using it, it doesn't make much difference, does it?
Stay on the bus a while longer.
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Originally posted by Formula88: A year today isn't the same length of time as a year 2000 years ago.
My comment was in response to your simplistic comment. Nothing more. I'll save you a window seat.
Histories most recorded event 2010 years ago was the death ,burial, & resurection
If you mean by "history most recorded event" that it mostly consists of one (religious) book that has been printed a lot (including all it's variations, languages and different translations), then you would be right.
For me, an event that qualifies as "most recorded in history" would be one that's recorded by the largest number of independent and credible sources. By that measure, the events you're referring to are not very impressive.
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YUP Christ has risen for You.
...says the Easter bunny.
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The word recorded was used thousands of years ago,land deeds were recorded, THINK ! ...Imbecile yellowstone,,I want you to monitor every post I submit,you will get an education & it is interesting to know what the only forum Al Qaeda sympathezer is thinking,those that do not know,, IMBECILE yellowstone,submited his new name "Imbecile",, ,just check back to my Ukraine post!!
check out 'niels 88' post4/20/2014 the clear winner for Easter post,she represent easily gods way into the heart of man , accept the forgiving beauty of Jesus Christ into your heart & soul.
Move to the bright blinding light,Of the ressurection!!!,even events of 2000 years ago were recorded when written down by a scribe the ancient word recorded was where we get the recording of video & word tape! ............love the short bus.. Birth of Jesus Christ regonize as fact by great religious leader by Muslems, Hindu,Buddist Sikh,Jews,Taos,Zoroastrianism, rastafarians, spiritualist,& Yoga Masters ,even great leaders of shinto & confucianism have honor & recognize Jesus ,,Never forget I have travel the world,& not as a short stay tourist So many here are ignorant of History ,& agree only with events that fit there own agenda .it is so sad
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If someone can post in a PFF forum they can research Jesus as much as they want. Before the internet I can understand how people could have an unrealistic understanding of NT historicity. Much of the scholarly work (from both believers and non-believers) was difficult to access without going into university libraries or buying books and reading them. We were still limited to what we were told.
Today 95% of that work over the last 300 years is available for free with some simple searches. We can educate ourselves with very little effort if we will just read. Many scholars on both sides have YouTube videos you can watch and get into the details. We can learn more than we might want to know. We can cross-reference and see both sides of the argument and then make an informed decision.
But if one lacks the intellectual curiosity to at least be informed, nothing posted on an off-topic forum is going to change that. People can shoot down others views, insult, quote scripture, appeal to our fears and slam someone with fact after fact after fact and nothing will change unless they want to be better informed. And we have to separate theology/philo-theology from historicity. They are two totally different aspects.
But there is no way to escape one fact - what we were told isn't what is written and what was written isn't always presented to us accurately. If someone doesn't understand why that is true, they've avoided learning. Regardless of what side you are on, the facts about the NT are fascinating on many levels.
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I wouldnt say much about Jesus is recorded. His birth is, and his life in his 30s. I dont recall much said in between. They dont even know exactly where he was laid to rest...people are still searching. There is a lot of info about his time with the disciples and his death...but thats a relatively short time. Id agree with the crusifiction being a well documented single event but still not one of the 'most' documented/recorded. It may well be one of the most widespread known events.
I wouldnt say much about Jesus is recorded. His birth is, and his life in his 30s. I dont recall much said in between. They dont even know exactly where he was laid to rest...people are still searching. There is a lot of info about his time with the disciples and his death...but thats a relatively short time. Id agree with the crusifiction being a well documented single event but still not one of the 'most' documented/recorded. It may well be one of the most widespread known events.
OMG, you said it, too! Now Uhlanstan will probably call you an imbecile... (he got that shiny new word from another thread where he apparently didn't get my post... oh, well).
I know, I know. It wasn't established until about 550AD, etc. Still, someone had to figure it out. I highly doubt they just guessed.
Were still talking about King Tut 5000 years later....
