In a new computer case! Now-a-days, pretty good ones can be had for $40 bucks brand-new.
And if you keep a good supply of extra hard drives, video cards, & power supplies on hand (like I do), you can have a tried-&-true working computer system in your closet ready to go! For sale or as a gift to someone who don't have one! You also get the advantage of having your existing computer system up & running while you build the new one in your existing case with the new parts.
Good choice on sealed liquid cooler. I've got one, and it's done nothing but great for me.
That said - liquid cooling is addicting. Once you start, you're going to want to liquid cool everything, provided you have the cash. My last rig before this had a cooling block on VGA, CPU, RAM and even a liquid HDD cooler. I've even seen guys do liquid PSU, but I am not at that point yet.
Why not mineral oil submersion cooling? I've seen a lot of it done, and depending on where you get your info, it's fairly straight forward and pretty efficient. PugetSystems is working on a pre-fab aquarium they say keeps temps below 80*c at full load with dual CPU's and 2 Radeon Gfx cards.
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Why not mineral oil submersion cooling? I've seen a lot of it done, and depending on where you get your info, it's fairly straight forward and pretty efficient. PugetSystems is working on a pre-fab aquarium they say keeps temps below 80*c at full load with dual CPU's and 2 Radeon Gfx cards.
That's going to be a nice set up! Thanks for sharing. And have fun with it.
Funny you should say that. I was just thinking how I never have fun with these builds. The best I can do is a sigh of relief when I finally get it to work. I really don't even know why I put myself through the stress....unless.....I'm some kind of challenge junkie.
And that's just sick.
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Originally posted by Boondawg: I really don't even know why I put myself through the stress....unless.....I'm some kind of challenge junkie. And that's just sick.
i used to enjoy the learning experience. but then i learned that everything i'd just learned was obsolete and useless within a year or so. thrill gone.
i used to enjoy the learning experience. but then i learned that everything i'd just learned was obsolete and useless within a year or so. thrill gone.
If I went that way, I'd never have sex again! Wait, what's today again? Oh, snap, Friday night, April 18, 2014...........I gotta' go!
i used to enjoy the learning experience. but then i learned that everything i'd just learned was obsolete and useless within a year or so. thrill gone.
Even knowing that what I just built will be nearing obsolescence in a year never stopped me. The thrill for me is knowing every I build is going to be better than anything I can buy at a standard big box retailer in every way. I get a much wider selection of case choices, wider selection of monitor choices as well as a wider selection of CPU/RAM/drive choices and combinations. If I want to skimp on storage capacity for system memory or processor power, I can do that and vice versa.. I also enjoy following the various players in SOHO tech. Another thrill is in what's around the corner and what we may see 2 generations from now.
It's also interesting to note that several hard-core gamers I know still swear by the Sandy Bridge i7-Extreme CPU's. Some have started converting their rigs over to Intel's mind melting Ivy Bridge Extreme i7(both are socket 2011, so they are interchangeable) (think 6 cores hyperthreaded and running 4.5-4.7Ghz [unconfirmed reports as high as 5] stable on air.)
Funny you should say that. I was just thinking how I never have fun with these builds. The best I can do is a sigh of relief when I finally get it to work. I really don't even know why I put myself through the stress....unless.....I'm some kind of challenge junkie.
And that's just sick.
I've built a buncha boxes and the ones I had the most fun with were the 'fun ones' - like trying to stick a PC in a millennium falcon or At-At or old VCR... The "standard" or "gaming" PC builds were more like you described...They'd work when i flipped the switch, but It was kinda 'meh'. But having little laser cannons light up when there's disk activity? WHEEEEE- good times...because EVERYTHING'S more fun with *pew* *pew* lasers!
i used to enjoy the learning experience. but then i learned that everything i'd just learned was obsolete and useless within a year or so. thrill gone.
In the electronics world, everything is in flux. The technology is constantly changing. So you're constantly learning and adapting, just to keep up.
Case in point: I used to be big into liquid cooling. I built several liquid cooled computers, including one that was cooled by ethanol, a couple dual CPU systems, and a water cooled Peltier system. On the water cooled Peltier system, I had to waterproof the motherboard because the CPU socket got so cold it caused water to condense and run down the board. I also developed rules of thumb to help guesstimate the necessary water flow from the pump, and airflow thru the radiator for optimal cooling. For several years, I was the resident "water cooling guru" at the Ars Technica web forum.
Then this newfangled thing called "heat pipes" came along, and made liquid cooling obsolete. Seriously, heat pipes are better in every way... except maybe for the "coolness factor". I actually built a crude heat pipe in my workshop, and tested it. It cooled my CPU as well as a water cooling system, but with no pump, much less tubing, and a smaller radiator with a single fan (my typical water cooling setup used an engine oil cooler with two 120mm fans). I was sold. After heat pipes went mainstream, I dropped liquid cooling like a hot rock, and never looked back.
That said, I'm not knocking Boonie's choice of CPU cooler. It's his computer, and he can do what he wants with it.
Edit to add: I want to see photos of the build, too.
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I've built a buncha boxes and the ones I had the most fun with were the 'fun ones' - like trying to stick a PC in a millennium falcon or At-At or old VCR... The "standard" or "gaming" PC builds were more like you described...They'd work when i flipped the switch, but It was kinda 'meh'. But having little laser cannons light up when there's disk activity? WHEEEEE- good times...because EVERYTHING'S more fun with *pew* *pew* lasers!
Originally posted by Blacktree: After heat pipes went mainstream, I dropped liquid cooling like a hot rock, and never looked back.
That said, I'm not knocking Boonie's choice of CPU cooler. It's his computer, and he can do what he wants with it.
Oh, I agree. A big part of my life has been spent benefitting from heatpipes. I've always only been interested in watercooling for the "coolness" factor (I mean with the clear reservoirs, pumps, & waterblocks, etc.). But I've always done real good with heatpipes. I never cooked a single piece of hardware.....ever.
Now I'm forced to start worrying about what happens when the pump dies....like I don't have enough hypertension in my life, I gotta' add even more opportunities to encourage a major cardiac event...
It seems the older I get, the less easier I become to explain to myself...
I'm fairly certain I already know the answer, but it never hurts to double-check; Should I remove the stock thermal paste from the Corsair cpu waterblock & do my own Arctic Sliver? The stock looks a little thick to me.
It's up to you. I'm sure the pre-applied thermal goop will work fine (or they wouldn't use it, LOL). But if you're hard core, trying to squeeze every last bit of efficiency from that cooling system, then you'll want to bust out the Arctic Silver.
You've gotta ask yourself a question: "Do I feel hard core?" Well, do ya Boonie?
That really depends on how far you're going to be pushing the CPU. If you're going to be looking to OC it, I would not only scrape the paste off, but I would take a light emery cloth and polish the copper down to a high gloss shine to get the grain and scratches out, and I would consider doing the same on the CPU.
Edit: It appears my knowledge on that particular subject is outdated. The most currently recommended is 'lapping' the copper base to make it flat, and then using only a bare minimum of AS5 to fill in the microscopic pits and peaks.
but I would take a light emery cloth and polish the copper down to a high gloss shine to get the grain and scratches out, and I would consider doing the same on the CPU.
Yeah, I don't think I'm going to go hardcore enough to require lapping the block & cpu.
Interesting side note, I use AS5 on the ignition modules in my Fiero. However I might try the ceramic route now.
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I guess tomorrow I move the existing one into the standby case. Then I can take my time mounting everything into the main case while I'm still up & running.
I want to savor every minute...maybe stretch it into a 2 day-build with extra attention to wire management!
I bought a BR-Burner for one of my laptops. WASTE. I've never even used a BR-Disc except for my PS3.
Well, I'm thinking I could use it to watch BluRay movies on my computer since I already have the 37" monitor...and the internal BluRay burners are about the same cost as the external stand-alone BluRay players only (which I don't have).
I'm fairly certain I already know the answer, but it never hurts to double-check; Should I remove the stock thermal paste from the Corsair cpu waterblock & do my own Arctic Sliver? The stock looks a little thick to me.
There is nothing wrong with the stock thermal paste on the H100. It is dow corning, and is one of the best thermal compounds out there.
