non running , has title , i dont know how much rust it has. Its not me buying it its a friend selling it. He has an offer of 4000$ . What do you say? How much would one of these mint be worth?
Im sorry i dont have any more info on it. Just looking for a rough estimate
edit: after a little digging 4000-5000 seems to be a fair price
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I've never heard of a 911 SD......for 1969, there were only three 911 models; E, T & S. Where is the car located? Any way of getting more info and pics? I might be interested in it.
Its at my friends house , in S. Broward Florida (near Miami) . If its not a 69 then it must be a 67 right? All i know is its turbo , its a 911. He told me over the phone SD, so maybe its an S? I have only seen it a handful of times at his house never really got under it , but the interior is in good shape for its age, all original, Gold color body.
He could get it running but dosnt have the time for it he is selling it as is. I think he already has a serious buyer, but regardless now you made me want to get pics. I have to take a trip out to his ranch anyways where the car is, I will bring my camera with me.
Even though he may have a serious buyer, if you could get more info & pics I would appreciate it. I'm a little confused though.....the first turbo 911 was in 1975. Anyway, pictures and a VIN would clear all of that up. PM me after you meet up with your friend.
......for 1969, there were only three 911 models; E, T & S.
Correct. There was also the '69 911RS 911R, a lightweight but street-legal racer produced in very limited quantities. I don't think any of them were built to U.S. specs or imported into the U.S.
Edit: Correct 911RS to 911R.
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Originally posted by mrfiero:
...the first turbo 911 was in 1975.
Right again.
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Originally posted by DanDamage:
If its not a 69 then it must be a 67 right? All i know is its turbo , its a 911.
One easy check: All 911s 1965 through 1968 were carbureted, as was the '69 911T. The '69 911E and 911S were both fuel injected (Bosch timed mechanical port injection). I don't remember when the carbureted 911T was discontinued, but all subsequent 911s had some form of fuel injection, from purely mechanical to vacuum modulated to purely electronic. As stated earlier, the street-legal turbo 911s didn't appear until ~1975.
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Originally posted by DanDamage:
... i dont know how much rust it has.
Rust, along with engine and transmission condition, will be the primary determinants of value. Early 911s ... through about 1978 ... had serious problems with body-pan rust: suspension torsion bar attach points, rocker panels, headlight bowls, battery boxes, and the cowl area above the driver's and front passenger's feet. Porsche began hot-dip galvanizing all 911 chassis and body panels in 1978 (I think), yielding a vast improvement in rust resistance.
Thyssen steel = steel with Zinc layers on both sides; thickness of the Zinc layers varied from 10 um to 20 um, depending on exposure conditions (Frere, p. 201)
1970 – Galvanized steel (not Thyssen type) used in floor pan and wheel arches (Bob White in Pano V: 142); the “entire platform, including the floor, the longitudinal members, the wheel arches and the seat pans were galvanized.” (Boschen & Barth, p. 124)
1971 models – had galvanized steel in areas particularly exposed to rust (Frere, p. 201)
1972-1973 – Thyssen steel use began (Bob White in Pano V: 142)
1973 – Thyssen steel: rocker panels, inner rocker panels, floor pans, & some other parts (Chuck Stoddard in Pano V: 142)
1975 – Thyssen steel: entire body treated (Bob White & Chuck Stoddard {began in Feb. ’75 production for US cars; earlier for Euro cars – had trouble with paint} in Pano V: 142, 192)
1976 models – had Thyssen steel in entire body except roof (Frere, p. 201)
1977 models – on – had Thyssen steel in entire body (Frere, p. 201); an “important step forward was the use of zinc-coated sheet steel for the manufacture of the entire body structure (except for the coupe’s roof on early production cars). Coated on both sides, this made the structure virtually immune against the formation of rust….” (Boschen & Barth, p. 143)
The Zinc steel added 22 lbs. to the weight of the body structure (Frere, p. 202)
Pano = Panorama (Porsche Club of America journal) volume: page number Frere = Frere, Paul. 1997. PORSCHE 911 STORY. 6th ed., Patrick Stephens Ltd. Newbury Park, CA. Boschen & Barth = Boschen, Lothar and Jurgen Barth. 1978. THE PORSCHE BOOK: A DEFINITIVE ILLUSTRATED HISTORY. Argo Books.
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Rust, along with engine and transmission condition, will be the primary determinants of value. Early 911s ... through about 1978 ... had serious problems with body-pan rust: suspension torsion bar attach points, rocker panels, headlight bowls, battery boxes, and the cowl area above the driver's and front passenger's feet.
So, at some point, everything under you knees falls off? That should make one a lot cheaper, right?
If it is a GENUINE 1969 911S, and it is in original condition with a numbers matching engine and transmission, a perfect car in brand new condition, ready to win something like Pebble Beach, is worth in the neighborhood of $155,000. This is per the Hagerty insurance valuation tool. One that is a daily driver with a worn interior and needs some paint work and such is still in the neighborhood of $75,000! Now, if the car is heavily modified and or badly rusted, the value could be much lower.......... Early Porsche 911 prices have gone insane over the last few years!
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Consider that the '69 911S was a relatively rare car to start with. Fewer than 1500 of them were manufactured, out of a total '69 911 production of 10,118 (per Porsche), and it is likely that fewer than half that number were U.S.-spec cars.
I sold my '69 911S in 1984, for slightly more than I had paid for it in 1969 ($6292, factory delivery ... ~$8000 after shipping to the U.S., registered, and sitting in my driveway). The last I heard (ca. 1996), my 911S had been fully restored and was on display in an automotive museum somewhere in the northeastern U.S. I have no idea where it is or what it would be worth today.
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yes 911 prices are bubbling right now and are going up higher by the day if it is a real 60's ''S'' certain parts are worth way more then 4000 now a complete car even if totally rusted can sell for 40,000 or more nuts sure but that is what a bubble does
even 60's 912 with the old 4 banger is insanely priced now
there was no 911RS in the 60's there was a rare R for race model of the S but the RS is a 70's model and also super priced
well tommorow i will know for sure and its definately turbo.
Im gonna try and see if he wants me to fix it up to sell for more (which i doubt he will since my dad offered already) but its worth a shot. Pretty sure his wife wants it outta there
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