Now, having said that, I see you brought up the question of the mentally imbalanced people. My response to that is who gets to decide who is mentally imbalanced and who is not? What are the qualifications? Who makes up/determines the qualifications?
And if we can apply the confiscation of 2nd Amendment rights to certain people deemed "mentally imbalanced" by other people, what says we can't apply that same confiscation of rights policy to other Constitutionally guaranteed rights like freedom of speech or voting rights or even the right to be free of illegal searches and seizure? I'm just wondering where the typical liberal is going to draw the line here and how strong that line is going to be. Does the term "slippery slope" mean anything to you?
DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME - I agree 100% that a certified crazy homicidal maniac should not have access to firearms. No argument there. But the problem is we have the gun-grabbing liberal cultists who are constantly trying to redefine common sense policies to morph them into something entirely twisted in order to further their leftist agendas. And now that Obama has put the fed effectively in control of the medical system, is it really a stretch to say that the day could come where there are only psychologists who can get paid by government insurance programs are those who favor gun control or even full blown gun confiscation??? What do you think is going to happen to your rights then?
You see, we who read and understand world history have seen this kind of thing happen before and understand how it can happen again. And the danger doesn't only apply to your 2nd Amendment rights. It applies to all God-given rights.
George Washington said it best: "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence…"
My grip is the lack of opportunity to turn over their guns to a dealer to sell and recover some investment. I know that a few of mine have have more sentimental value than their market value. I could imagine the anger that many people would have of being deprived of their property and the loss of the involved money, forget that due process that is promised is not fairly dealt out. There are lots of stories of "lost" guns held for somebodies safety by police departments or requirement for a sales receipt for a 80 year old gun passed down by grandpa.
The mass majority of gun related crimes in this country are committed by criminals who cannot legally possess any firearms under existing law to begin with. But for some reason, those laws are not enforced nearly as strictly as some want to enforce new laws that would only apply to law-abiding citizens anyway. That's because the criminals are never going to comply with any laws because of their nature. And whenever we ask the government to get tough on crime, there is always some group of people who start whining about prisons being over-crowded and such.
Again, I ask the gun grabbing culture to tune into "The First 48" series on cable TV and watch a few episodes. Then tune in and watch "After the First 48" which highlights the court findings of these murder investigations. What you are going to see is a lot of people getting convicted of murder but most only end up serving less than 10 years for the crime. Am I the only one that sees something wrong with this?
The violence problem in this country is not going to get fixed until we get tough on criminals...PERIOD. These people know they are only ever going to get a slap on the wrist for even the most heinous crimes, and even when they serve "hard time", their prison stay is not tough either. Most get cable TV, free education and better medical care than you and I could afford ourselves. There is a serious disconnect here and that needs to be fixed before we can fix the root of the violence problem in this country.
The problem is NOT the guns. The problem is the people (criminals) pulling the trigger of the guns and using them in criminal acts. We don't need new gun control laws. We need our government to get tough on crime and tougher on criminals.
Am I the only one that sees something wrong with this? .. The violence problem in this country is not going to get fixed until we get tough on criminals...PERIOD. There is a serious disconnect here and that needs to be fixed before we can fix the root of the violence problem in this country. .. The problem is NOT the guns. The problem is the people (criminals) pulling the trigger of the guns and using them in criminal acts. We don't need new gun control laws. We need our government to get tough on crime and tougher on criminals.
The New York City Police Department is taking aim at owners of shotguns and rifles capable of holding more than five rounds, demanding such guns be surrendered, altered or taken out of the city.
The demand came in the form of some 500 letters mailed out to owners of registered long guns that are in violation of a 2010 city ordinance. The first option for the letter's recipient is to, "Immediately surrender your Rifle and/or Shotgun to your local police precinct, and notify this office of the invoice number. The firearm may be sold or permanently removed from the City of New York thereafter."
The notices, mailed Nov. 18, also give owners the options of demonstrating the gun has been moved out of NYPD jurisdiction or modified by a licensed gunsmith to comply with the law.
Although an NYPD spokeswoman told FoxNews.com the law has been on the books since 2010, critics say this year is the first time the notices were so widely dispersed. ... The SAFE Act was the first law in the nation prompted by the December 2012 killing of 20 first-graders and six educators in Newtown, Conn. Its passage was seen as a victory for gun-control advocates because it expands a ban on military-style weapons, requires mental health professionals to report threats, limits magazines to seven bullets, taxes bullets and creates a registry.
Though these notices were not sent out as a direct result of the SAFE Act, New York State Assemblyman James Tedisco said the new law may embolden city police forces to send out similar letters.
Tedisco, who voted against the SAFE Act, said New York City had the five-round law in the books for about 20 years, but this is the first time he has heard complaints about the notices being sent out to gun owners. ...
Even if this letter is fake, the law is real. If you own something they have banned from private ownership, you have to turn it in ( if it wasn't grandfathered )
Several reports of gun confiscations are starting to appear in New York State after a man said he had all of his firearms seized by police over a 15 year old misdemeanor charge.
On July 8, 2014 a man in Nassau County said that he received a visit from the New York State Police saying that they wanted to inspect the serial number of a semi-automatic rifle that he recently purchased.
He took the officers to his gun safe to show them the serial number when one of the officers took all of his guns (CX4 9mm, Remington 70 SPS, and Remington 870 shotgun) out of the safe. They told him that he had a misdemeanor possession charge from 15 years ago and that all of his guns would be taken.
“ “NY State Police just came to my house and took everything.” – Bill
All of the guns were bought legally, one at a Dicks Sporting Goods and the other 2 at a local outdoors-men store. Background checks were also done at the time of purchase.
The state troopers gave the man a New York State police receipt and a certificate of relief paper. They told him if he could get a judge to sign the relief paper he would get his guns back.
The man has since hired a lawyer but has not yet received his legally owned guns back.
funny how It says nothing about gun regulation in the constitution seeing as how those rights are birth given to every person born onto American soil.
And regulation is only going to affect those bound to regulation... do you think someone breaking into my house (if I lived in NY) is going to care about a piece of paper saying his gun can only hold 5 rounds?
Statistics don't lie, even if gun control becomes so strict you do reduce the number of guns criminals have, it usually has a negative effect on violent crime. You and I are a part of a generation that will make or break gun control. It's sad he have gotten to the point where we have such a powerful government that it can break the laws limiting the control it has in our lives.
What gets me the most with crap like this is that it does absolutely NOTHING but turn law abiding citizens into criminals - the criminals frankly just don't give a rats %*&$ since they will: register their guns, never turn them in, or apply for a permit.
These anti-gun "people" just can't seem to figure that part out.
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