He said-she said? Where's this Hawaiian official. What is his/her name? An affidavit won't stand up in court.
What ever the name of the Hawaiian official is, he/she is marked for death.. And will have really unlucky day..
Lets use the cops, motto,, If you have nothing to hide?????????????????? unseal your records.. Cause how do you get foreigner aid and grants for college, and travel to Pakistan, when it was banned for legal American's to do so???
It's gonna suck in 2017 when he takes off to somewhere with that 50 million that went missing a few years ago.. and it all comes out..
I didn't vote for him.. AS his whole tour, was to much used car salesman like.. But once he won, figured "Lets see" And let me tell you, Many Blacks that voted for him, have up on trusting him long before, I stopped giving him the beeny of doubts.. Sadly, they feel betrayed, as they thought they were part of something noble and historic.. it'll go down as historic all right, but noble not a chance.. Most of the blacks I've known for years, didn't "buy" what he was selling, but voted for him to bring MLK dream to The top office of the free world.. And have been kicking themselves in the back side for the last 5-6 years..
The comparison to a used car salesman is a good one. This guy has been a lying, conniving, underhanded POS since he showed up on the scene. I completely trust anything he says as much as I do Hillary....
Many Blacks that voted for him, have up on trusting him long before, I stopped giving him the beeny of doubts.. Sadly, they feel betrayed, as they thought they were part of something noble and historic.. it'll go down as historic all right, but noble not a chance.. Most of the blacks I've known for years, didn't "buy" what he was selling, but voted for him to bring MLK dream to The top office of the free world.. And have been kicking themselves in the back side for the last 5-6 years..
Maybe attitudes are different where you live, but in CA obama can't do ANYTHING wrong. It is sickening to see people defend him just because of the color of his skin and TOTALLY discount accusations against him. Then we also have the liberal lunatics that do the same thing because he is very much in line with their dream politician.
Originally posted by Rickady88GT: It is sickening to see people defend him just because of the color of his skin and TOTALLY discount accusations against him.
Just so you know, ... it's not because of the color of his skin. They defend him and discount the allegations against him because, because they want the utopian dumbocratic spin to be true. They will do the same for Hillary, not because she is a woman.
Just so you know, ... it's not because of the color of his skin. They defend him and discount the allegations against him because, because they want the utopian dumbocratic spin to be true. They will do the same for Hillary, not because she is a woman.
That does explain the liberal lunatics mentality, but not the racists mentality. To them obama is a victim, and in need of assistance. Or at least see themselves as a voice of balance and defense.
Seriously, thread necromancy to beat the dead horse some more?
Here's a reality check: We had our chance to address the birth certificate issue YEARS AGO. Nobody made any real progress with that. Trying to oust him now, near the end of his second term, is like shutting the barn door after the horse is already gone. Whether or not he's eligible for the office is pretty pointless now, because he'll end up holding that office for 8 years anyway.
You had your chance to question his eligibility, and failed. Get over it. Maybe you should concentrate on something useful, like preventing Hitlery from replacing him. Just a thought.
Here's a reality check: We had our chance to address the birth certificate issue YEARS AGO. Nobody made any real progress with that. Trying to oust him now, near the end of his second term, is like shutting the barn door after the horse is already gone. Whether or not he's eligible for the office is pretty pointless now, because he'll end up holding that office for 8 years anyway.
You had your chance to question his eligibility, and failed. Get over it. Maybe you should concentrate on something useful, like preventing Hitlery from replacing him. Just a thought.
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Sometimes the bad guys get away with things. You start impeachment proceedings now and you hand the Left a BIG stick to pound the racism drum.
Get practical on their as**es. Drop it and focus on the future.
Besides, if Trump or Cruz get in we might just see Obama and the Clintons do the perp walk.
Might not happen but a boy can dream. (Was that racist? I can't tell anymore.)
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Seriously, thread necromancy to beat the dead horse some more?
Here's a reality check: We had our chance to address the birth certificate issue YEARS AGO. Nobody made any real progress with that. Trying to oust him now, near the end of his second term, is like shutting the barn door after the horse is already gone. Whether or not he's eligible for the office is pretty pointless now, because he'll end up holding that office for 8 years anyway.
You had your chance to question his eligibility, and failed. Get over it. Maybe you should concentrate on something useful, like preventing Hitlery from replacing him. Just a thought.
While Obama has gotten away with it, this issue had made an impression. A number of states are becoming much stricter on their standards to get on the ballot. The next charlatan will have a much harder time pulling the same stunt.
There is another angle which could create a constitutional crisis. If it is proven at some point that he was ineligible and attained the office by fraud, what happens to all of the legislation he signed, executive orders he implemented and treaties that he signed?
Maybe attitudes are different where you live, but in CA obama can't do ANYTHING wrong. It is sickening to see people defend him just because of the color of his skin and TOTALLY discount accusations against him. Then we also have the liberal lunatics that do the same thing because he is very much in line with their dream politician.
I don't see a color of his skin, I see a man, and his ideals, I see a hate filled racist, I see a bull **** artist that makes bill Clinton blush.. But what I really see is a man that is a child, that found to get his way, instead of covering his ears and going lalalala, he and his party leaders , call you racist if you don't go lock step..
My state is blue, but people are not totally fruits and nuts... unlike the west coast
Seriously, thread necromancy to beat the dead horse some more?
Here's a reality check: We had our chance to address the birth certificate issue YEARS AGO. Nobody made any real progress with that. Trying to oust him now, near the end of his second term, is like shutting the barn door after the horse is already gone. Whether or not he's eligible for the office is pretty pointless now, because he'll end up holding that office for 8 years anyway.
You had your chance to question his eligibility, and failed. Get over it. Maybe you should concentrate on something useful, like preventing Hitlery from replacing him. Just a thought.
Sorry, you are wrong, dead wrong, the only way to fix many things he has done, is to show that he couldn't hold the office, making things he did null and void.. as that is the only way to kill the monster that is the ACA Obama care.. This will be done after he is out of office.. not while he holds it. Hitlery can't legally run for office.. and when it gets down to 1 dem one rep, and a green party guy.. there will be ad's telling the sheep why she can't legally hold the office.. as there are no rules when it comes to campaign ads and mud throwing..
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With all the crap that Obama has pulled during his stay in Office, what makes any of you think that he will leave when his term is up. There has been speculation that some event/s are forthcoming that will postpone the election. With all that's happened since he took office, it wouldn't surprise me if he can pull it off, and run another term, or part of a term. That's just how messed up everything is right now, nothing would surprise me.
With all the crap that Obama has pulled during his stay in Office, what makes any of you think that he will leave when his term is up. There has been speculation that some event/s are forthcoming that will postpone the election. With all that's happened since he took office, it wouldn't surprise me if he can pull it off, and run another term, or part of a term. That's just how messed up everything is right now, nothing would surprise me.
you don't think the race war fire feeding was just not a masterminded tool,,
place your bets, here is my bid, Clinton wins the dem side.. and out of the blue, Obama's clan enforces the laws that she can't run or hold a public office because of the email issue.. and The tranny he calls a wife, runs and Obama is the first gay first lady
born 1957,, this will be known as fact once his records are unsealed, Hawaii statehood 8-1959 oops..
Hawaii was a U.S. Territory from 1898 until it became a state and birthright citizenship applies if you're born to US citizen parents in a US territory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...in_the_United_States
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Birthright citizenship in the United States refers to a person's acquisition of United States citizenship by virtue of the circumstances of his or her birth. It contrasts with citizenship acquired in other ways, for example by naturalization later in life. Birthright citizenship may be conferred by jus soli or jus sanguinis. Under United States law, U.S. citizenship is automatically granted to any person born within and subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. This includes the territories of Puerto Rico, the Marianas (Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands) and the U.S. Virgin Islands, and also applies to children born elsewhere in the world to U.S. citizens (with certain exceptions).[1][2]
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Seriously, thread necromancy to beat the dead horse some more?
Here's a reality check: We had our chance to address the birth certificate issue YEARS AGO. Nobody made any real progress with that. Trying to oust him now, near the end of his second term, is like shutting the barn door after the horse is already gone. Whether or not he's eligible for the office is pretty pointless now, because he'll end up holding that office for 8 years anyway.
You had your chance to question his eligibility, and failed. Get over it. Maybe you should concentrate on something useful.
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Originally posted by E.Furgal:
you don't think the race war fire feeding was just not a masterminded tool,,
place your bets, here is my bid, Clinton wins the dem side.. and out of the blue, Obama's clan enforces the laws that she can't run or hold a public office because of the email issue.. and The tranny he calls a wife, runs and Obama is the first gay first lady
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Originally posted by maryjane:
morons abound.
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With all the crap that Obama has pulled during his stay in Office, what makes any of you think that he will leave when his term is up. There has been speculation that some event/s are forthcoming that will postpone the election. With all that's happened since he took office, it wouldn't surprise me if he can pull it off, and run another term, or part of a term. That's just how messed up everything is right now, nothing would surprise me.
This is true. The law says that if for any reason there is a declared martial law for example, the sitting president remains in office. All he would have to do is wait for another mass black uprising, he declares martial law....and wham...hes in for as long as he wants as dictator in chief. Fake birth certificate like mentioned already is really a pointless arguement now. Hes out...under normal circumstances...in a few more years. I just hope the idiot democrats dont put Hillary in his place or its a rerun of the same crap. Of course the way its going, shes burying herself all on her own.
With all the crap that Obama has pulled during his stay in Office, what makes any of you think that he will leave when his term is up. There has been speculation that some event/s are forthcoming that will postpone the election. With all that's happened since he took office, it wouldn't surprise me if he can pull it off, and run another term, or part of a term. That's just how messed up everything is right now, nothing would surprise me.
And this was said about G. W. Bush as the end of his term was in sight and the Pres. before him and the one before that...
While it "could" happen, that sentiment always seems to get thrown around by the opposition party followers right about this time. It's amazing if you open your mind to more than just those who support your own political ideology just how many things BOTH parties do and say that are essentially the same. I'm not talking party issues, just the steps each thinks the other will do to retain power.
Wasn't his mother a US citizen? That should be the end of it, no matter where he was born.
Am I missing something? (Poorly forged documents notwithstanding.)
Yes, you are missing something bigger than the titanic. He went to school in Indonesia, where you have to be a citizen to attend. There is no dual citizenship with Indonesia, so he had to renounce his US citizenship, which makes him a criminal, and he should be tried for treason among other crimes. Those who tried to hush it up, should be tried, the left should apologize in mass, nothing will happen though, its surreal. People are sheep, the government can do things worse than the British, and no one cares. If Fema camps were real, then the masses would walk straight into the ovens. Seriously when does America wake up?
Are YOU man enough to do the deed, or are you just another jockey short wearing, keyboard pounding patriot in your own mind?
you are a tool, the last lady in that office that had knowledge of the original paperwork, came to an untimely death.. I wasn't talking about me, you dolt, I was talking the chicho thug in the oval office
Yes, you are missing something bigger than the titanic. He went to school in Indonesia, where you have to be a citizen to attend. There is no dual citizenship with Indonesia, so he had to renounce his US citizenship, which makes him a criminal, and he should be tried for treason among other crimes. Those who tried to hush it up, should be tried, the left should apologize in mass, nothing will happen though, its surreal. People are sheep, the government can do things worse than the British, and no one cares. If Fema camps were real, then the masses would walk straight into the ovens. Seriously when does America wake up?
Seeing as you can not have dual citizenship, meaning you can either be a citizen of US or Indonesia, and Indonesia does not allow non citizens to attend school there, which he did. Someone had to declare he was not or was no longer a US citizen, either his parents or himself.
This is the bit that is lost, and the implications are huge. The standing president, is a usurper and a criminal, and potentially a domestic enemy of the United States. That says a lot about him, and those that tried to keep it from seeing the light of day. If there was any thing left of our republic, trials would already have been started, and Obama and his prominent supporters would be in Federal prisons. Unfortunately the reality is much darker, there is little to no justice and really no rule of law. We are a police state and a oligarchy.
We can either make a stand or keep our heads down and hope they leave us alone.
Right next to his college thesis, published Harvard Law reviews and college transcripts, I'm sure.
Welcome to the Barack Obama Presidential Library. This wing is dedicated to his college years and contains all of his published law reviews and relevant college documents.
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The fact that this is 2013 video, pretty much sums it up, this issue will not be resolved while he's in office because too many people are involved in the cover up:
Seeing as you can not have dual citizenship, meaning you can either be a citizen of US or Indonesia, and Indonesia does not allow non citizens to attend school there, which he did. Someone had to declare he was not or was no longer a US citizen, either his parents or himself.
You are making assumptions and leading the path where you want it to be.
Originally posted by pokeyfiero: You are making assumptions and leading the path where you want it to be.
I was groping for the words, but this nails it. I agree. QFT. The only evidence that I have seen is an image of some paperwork with a line filled in with the handwritten word "Indonesia" or "Indonesian" where it asks for citizenship.
That is not probative. No sensible judge or legal court or investigator can go straight from that to "malfeasance", "Constitutionally ineligible for President" or "treason".
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I just have one question. If in the end his presidency is proved to be illegal, do we get the stimulus, cash for clunkers and all of the wasted solar money back?
And we should put the troops back in the middle east, drop the stock market and fire enough people to put unemployment number back up
You are making assumptions and leading the path where you want it to be.
Even if that was the case, his forged birth certificate, and fast and furious would be enough to throw him in prison, along with those covering his crimes. Lets not mention Benghazi.
Wasn't his mother a US citizen? That should be the end of it, no matter where he was born.
Am I missing something? (Poorly forged documents notwithstanding.)
You nailed it. Mother is an American so he is an American. No matter where he was born. My daughter was born in England while I was serving in the Air Force. Does anyone think she would not be an American if she did not have a British birth certificate? I was born in the Panama Canal Zone to American parents serving in the Army. I am an American. My birth certificate is from the Canal Zone government. Does anyone think I am not American if I did not have a birth certificate?
"Born to American parents". Yes, you are an American. If you were born in the Canal Zone, before Carter gave it back to Panama, yes you are an American born in an American territory. That makes you a natural born citizen.
You nailed it. Mother is an American so he is an American. No matter where he was born. My daughter was born in England while I was serving in the Air Force. Does anyone think she would not be an American if she did not have a British birth certificate? I was born in the Panama Canal Zone to American parents serving in the Army. I am an American. My birth certificate is from the Canal Zone government. Does anyone think I am not American if I did not have a birth certificate?
being born while the parents are serving the country is a tad different that the Obama mess.. as the milt. bases they called home are American soil.. So what did he nail..
