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1988 Formula - Project or junk. Some goodies included. Mid-east New York - $1000. by Crusty
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For Sale: 1988 Formula with 5-speed manual trans. It's been sitting for over 10 years - maybe 20. Grey interior. AC. No sunroof. Not missing parts. Have title.

$1000.00

First the bad news:

The engine started billowing out white smoke and I shut it right down. I think the seals blew. I can't guarantee it but I'm pretty sure the heads didn't get warped. The windshield is cracked. The keys are locked inside and I can't open the doors or trunk. Or the hood because the latch is inside the interior. I think it had about 140K miles on it. Body damage is minimal - the rear facia has about an 8" crack on the passenger side corner, and just above the driver's side rear wheel there's a small wound. (see pics). Also mice. The mice have been at the interior. The upholstery is pretty rough. Count on replacing all the fabric if you're thinking resto. It's also very dirty inside.

Now for the good news:

The car is pretty much all original and intact. I just had the 5-speed manual transmission replaced right before the engine blew. I didn't even put 200 miles on it. All the rims are correct with proper offsets on the rear. The rims are in good condition. The only modification I made to the car was to replace the shifter with a short-shifter. I think I got that at the Fiero Store. I had the sun visors custom reupholstered (grey). I had them made to include the CD pockets on the drivers side, too. Never installed them - they are in brand new condition and included. I also purchased brand new OEM dew wipes and they are still sealed in their original packaging - these are also included. In addition have a 12" subwoofer a kid in stereo shop custom made for his Fiero. He sold it to me. It's in a custom made box that he put grey fabric on and it matches the interior. It fits snuggly under the dash in the passenger side. It kicks ass. The speaker grill is kicked in, though, and should be replaced. I never got to install it in this Fiero (it's my third one) so the mice never touched it.

I replaced the drivers side seat - it has speakers in the headrest, the passenger side does not. I have a tote-bin full of extra parts that's also included. Also included is a set of GT style rear lights in good condition. I MIGHT also have a fiberglass interior roof liner but I don't recall seeing that around. If it's here I'll include that also. Got that at the Fiero Store, too.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some informational stuff here so ask me questions and I'll try to answer them. Just remember I can't get into the interior of the car because some idiot locked the keys inside.

And no, I'm not interested in parting anything out - take the whole lot. I'd like to get it gone soonish.









The car is located in New York state near where Massachusetts and Vermont converge. The town is called Stephentown and it's the only one on Earth.

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Non-running Fieros don't bring very much especially one that has sat out in the woods for 20 years. IMO this is a salvage vehicle but it may have a few good rare parts like the 5 sp Getrag and the 88 suspension. Probably worth more like $400 but you never know what the market will bring

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Report this Post04-12-2025 08:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So sad to see these cars ruined by being abandoned for many years... Should have been fixed or sold when engine first blew.... I have seen about 20 88 Fieros like this in the past decade. People park them in the yard , leave for 10-15 years... and ruin them. What a shame

Good luck with the sale, hopefully someone can save it
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if you werent in new york absolutely.
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I'm gonna have to have a real talk with myself about whether or not driving 15 hours to get 88 suspension and a 5 speed is worth it.... I may end up PM-ing you....
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Report this Post04-14-2025 06:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Get some REALLY good pics first, maybe video call. May be rotted to crap and you drive 15 hours for nothing..
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Just remember I can't get into the interior of the car because some idiot locked the keys inside.


This means that the trunk / engine bay and the steering wheel are locked too....

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OK - I can see this is going to be a tough sell so therefore I'm reducing the price by $1000.00. So hey, free car. Goodies still included. Come an' git it.

Just don't be a d1¢k and tell me you're coming to get it and then never show up. I just want it gone.

I'm in the process of moving and I don't have dedicated internet atm so I may not respond to messages promptly (maybe even for a day or 2). Tomorrow (Thursday April 17th) is not an option for me. I'm free most any other time.

My email is cherryplain.ny@gmail.com

And I'm not 100% sure the doors are actually locked. I can't get them open and they just don't budge. The keys are sitting right there on the seat. Bring a gallon of WD40. Or, I have a rock you can use once the title is transferred. And you can keep the rock as a souvineer.
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I'm just going to say, this is NOT a parts car. Unless the frame is totally rotted out (which we don't know), this is a tow home, get new tires, change some hoses, and perform a tune-up on it... and then run it through a car-wash. This car is complete.

If I didn't literally just buy another car a few weeks ago, I'd buy this right now.

Have you considered putting it on eBay? The cost of these cars are sky rocketing now. You're trying to sell it here on Pennocks, but guarantee someone sees it on eBay and buys it for $2k and picks it up.

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Crusty, if the car has manual roll up windows, it's fairly easy to get inside. I sent you a PM with information how to break into it. I've had to do it a few times in the past.
Good luck.
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The car has electric windows. I don't see any PMs in my account here, but thanks.

As for the price, that's more of what I was hoping to hear, but I said it was now free and I'm sticking to it.
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CoolBlue, it you could find a way to share that info I'd appreciate it. There's nothing in my message folder here. Or you could email it to me at the address in my 2nd post. Like I said this car has electric windows but if there's ANYTHING that could help to get inside that would be hot.

I could try the old coat hanger fishing thing but I don't think I could get the keys out without dropping them where I can't see them anymore.
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FYI - A locksmith will be a lot cheaper than replacing the window....
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Originally posted by Crusty:

CoolBlue, it you could find a way to share that info I'd appreciate it. There's nothing in my message folder here. Or you could email it to me at the address in my 2nd post. Like I said this car has electric windows but if there's ANYTHING that could help to get inside that would be hot.

I could try the old coat hanger fishing thing but I don't think I could get the keys out without dropping them where I can't see them anymore.


Message sent, I got a truck and trailer with winch. Located in pa Nice short 4 hour trip for me.
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When I get home I can email it.

If you can find some wedge shaped product, like door stops, using two, force them into the top of the door glass enough to get a hanger to move freely. Seperate them a few inches apart.

You should be able to get at least a 2 inch gap. Make a good hook thats almost closed to grap the keys.

Test out your fishing skills on another set of keys to perfect the hook. Good luck.

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Originally posted by CoolBlue87GT:

When I get home I can email it.

If you can find some wedge shaped product, like door stops, using two, force them into the top of the door glass enough to get a hanger to move freely. Seperate them a few inches apart.

You should be able to get at least a 2 inch gap. Make a good hook thats almost closed to grap the keys.

Test out your fishing skills on another set of keys to perfect the hook. Good luck.



These are pretty easy to get in, either hooking the keys or just pushing the lock ever at the right angle.
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It's been 3 days since I was able to check this forum. I've had only one person respond who said they want it, but it's been 3 days since his initial email to me and now he's not responding.

The reason I need this car to be gone is because it's partially blocking the driveway to where I'm moving to. I have a 32' RV that I need to get in that driveway. That RV is my new home so the Fiero must go ASAP as I'm having the driveway leveled and some crusher run brought in and graded so the RV can access the property. I have the RV in storage right now but I've got to be out of the storage facility by May 8.

I'm going to take 82-T/A [At Work]'s advice (THANK YOU) and put the car for sale on EBay for $2,000 and we'll see what happens. My free offer here on Pennock's still stands for anyone here wishing to pick it up SOON. Just let me know in your email that you are from Pennock's.

If the car is not gone by the 30th I'll have it junked. Hate to do it but I need a place to live.

Again, my email is cherryplain.ny@gmail.com

As a follow-up, I did locate that fiberglass headliner I was unsure about. I also found 2 service manuals I'm throwing in:



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Originally posted by Crusty:

It's been 3 days since I was able to check this forum. I've had only one person respond who said they want it, but it's been 3 days since his initial email to me and now he's not responding.

The reason I need this car to be gone is because it's partially blocking the driveway to where I'm moving to. I have a 32' RV that I need to get in that driveway. That RV is my new home so the Fiero must go ASAP as I'm having the driveway leveled and some crusher run brought in and graded so the RV can access the property. I have the RV in storage right now but I've got to be out of the storage facility by May 8.

I'm going to take 82-T/A [At Work]'s advice (THANK YOU) and put the car for sale on EBay for $2,000 and we'll see what happens. My free offer here on Pennock's still stands for anyone here wishing to pick it up SOON. Just let me know in your email that you are from Pennock's.

If the car is not gone by the 30th I'll have it junked. Hate to do it but I need a place to live.

Again, my email is cherryplain.ny@gmail.com

As a follow-up, I did locate that fiberglass headliner I was unsure about. I also found 2 service manuals I'm throwing in:



please dont junk it. drag it somewhere else on the property if you absolutely have to and any uhual 4x4 truck will do it
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Originally posted by Crusty:

It's been 3 days since I was able to check this forum. I've had only one person respond who said they want it, but it's been 3 days since his initial email to me and now he's not responding.

The reason I need this car to be gone is because it's partially blocking the driveway to where I'm moving to. I have a 32' RV that I need to get in that driveway. That RV is my new home so the Fiero must go ASAP as I'm having the driveway leveled and some crusher run brought in and graded so the RV can access the property. I have the RV in storage right now but I've got to be out of the storage facility by May 8.

I'm going to take 82-T/A [At Work]'s advice (THANK YOU) and put the car for sale on EBay for $2,000 and we'll see what happens. My free offer here on Pennock's still stands for anyone here wishing to pick it up SOON. Just let me know in your email that you are from Pennock's.

If the car is not gone by the 30th I'll have it junked. Hate to do it but I need a place to live.

Again, my email is cherryplain.ny@gmail.com

As a follow-up, I did locate that fiberglass headliner I was unsure about. I also found 2 service manuals I'm throwing in:




I had sent an message with my # and plan to pickup this weekend, didn't receive a response. I have no sent you an email directly as well. 4 hour trip each way for me so if we can make a time work I have a trailer with winch.
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Car is in Stephentown. NY

Too far for me. But someone should really grab this. A shame to go to scrap

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for sale on EBay for $2,000 and we'll see what happens.


1988 Pontiac Fiero Formula
https://www.ebay.com/itm/396522614212?_

25 watched / eBay list ENDED

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...put the car for sale on EBay for $2,000 and we'll see what happens.


"Also included is a set of GT style rear lights in good condition."

That should grab some extra atterntion!
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Car is in Stephentown. NY

Too far for me. But someone should really grab this. A shame to go to scrap



I've offered, cant seem to get a response. Am free to pickup this saturday.
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I've offered, cant seem to get a response. Am free to pickup this saturday.


He posted it on eBay if you look above at the link. Hopefully the "broken windshield" means chip or crack. My son's windshield got a good split that leaked water and the inside was full of black mold. We didn't know until we took off the tarp and opened the door. It was bad enough I hope the guy that bought it survived...

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Hi all..

Been a few days since I could access the internet - sorry for the late replies to the emails I've received. I think I'm all caught up with those and now I have to make some revisions/corrections to my original listing. I'll tackle those first:

1. The car has 240,000 + miles on it. Not 140,000 as I originally stated. I found an old receipt for some work I had done on it and that's what is written there.

2. The subwoofer is 10" not 12"

3. I did find that fiberglass headliner so that also comes with the car.

4. Not sure about the seat with the speakers in it. I think I took a drivers side seat that had the speakers and was going to replace the passenger seat in this car. Can't remember why I was going to do that - maybe the old passenger seat was in very bad condition. Anyway the passenger seat is not bolted down in this car - it's kind of sitting there at an odd angle.

5. Found a complete set of never used and still looking brand new lowering springs I once purchased and never used.  I think they reduce the ride height by 1.5 inches.  I don't have any paperwork for them but I believe the company that made them was named something like Mauro.  Also included.

6. Found 2 sunroofs in good condition and one of those wind deflector thingies. Included.

7. Found a front facia for a GT that I had sanded all the paint off. It's rubber and has some small rips that would need fixing. Don't know if they CAN be fixed as I'm not a rubber repair kind of guy.

Enough about that.

So far I've got a list of 5 people who say they will come and get it. That's great! All from PFF, too.

I'm processing you guys in the order you responded to me. I will let you all know how things progress and when I know for certain the car is history.

The first person who I said I couldn't get ahold of finally did contact me and it turns out I entered his phone number incorrectly so no wonder he couldn't respond to my texts. Anyway, he's still first in line and I'm hoping to hear back from him today to setup a date to come get the car.

As for eBay... pffft

I had a bunch of losers waste my time. One guy thought the car was drivable and was surprised a car that old had no body rust. Wanted to come see it and waste more of my time.

Anyway, thank all you guys for helping me out with eBay and suggesting I go with the accept offers option. I was going to cancel the listing and replace it with the option for offers but after seeing the many true Fiero enthusiasts here who've shown interest I'm gonna say screw it and let the ad on eBay time out and not look back.

I think that about covers all the stuff that's been clogging my head. Gonna go outside and smoke a bomber and be right back to post some more pics. Been pouring here today and it's supposed to continue all night. But right now it stopped so outdoors I go.
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the subwoofie



Some lowering springs I forgot about. Never used.



EBrake cover



Dew wipes. Only one has not been opened and in original package it seems



Sunvisors



Totaly forgot about this one. Only the one window. Not a pair. The window is not all scratched up - those are reflections.

I think the GT rear lights are under the window. No pics.



Here's a pic of the interior. The car had already been sitting for a while when I took this pic. Dirt city.

You can see the loose passenger seat, falling down headliner. etc. Fiero floor mats were repurposed and gone. Not yours.



All these pics were taken year 2003 if the EXIF info is correct. But I never set the date on my camera so who knows.

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Well no, that can't be right. The last inspection sticker is 2008 I think.
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I need to get ahold of DD - you know who you are. CALL ME. time is running out.
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Wow, I really need the right GT OEM Quarter Window!

IF you want to sell it; please send me a PM!

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How flexible are you on price? If you're going to scrap, LMK. I can offer you whatever scrap is offering but I'd put her back on the road.
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Report this Post05-06-2025 11:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Vintage-NutSend a Private Message to Vintage-NutEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
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A member got the car and the goodies from Crusty, so the car was 'saved'.

Perhaps the new owner will post essentially the full rebuild...
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Report this Post05-11-2025 06:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for reinhartSend a Private Message to reinhartEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Can't believe he had so much trouble giving this car away. Glad this Formula was saved from the wrecker.

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Report this Post05-19-2025 01:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CrustySend a Private Message to CrustyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yes, the car was saved.
A member of PFF came and got it. He was 2nd on the list.

And yet another item I forgot to mention that was included : a set of side air scoops. I forget what the style is called but they are the kind that bulge out instead go in.

Well, that's it. Cliff, you can close this thread or just let it die. I prolly won't be back as I no longer have anything Fiero-ish in my life.

Thanks all for playing. See you on the freeway which is already in progress!

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Report this Post05-19-2025 03:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for not letting a Formula go to an early grave!
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Report this Post05-19-2025 11:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PhirewireSend a Private Message to PhirewireEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Did find a new home, the fate has not yet been sealed. The doors are not locked but frozen solid. Was able to retrieve the keys and access the trunk, no goodies but it was solid. After show season I'll get inside and see what is instore for this.
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