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88 Brake Master Cylinder rebuild kit available on eBay by cam-a-lot
Started on: 09-10-2022 08:20 AM
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Report this Post09-10-2022 08:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Not cheap, but very hard to find. Not mine

https://www.ebay.com/itm/31...AfbthteapN7knV%2Ffwf LWq%2Bd%2FrEz3vqjfswbnFBnHR2vI4MgzrU89CiJJvVs5jrnEkrxhOgxxJrBjgFcqE727GBduHvU6fU5ZiDSRftlMzf20lhQT0V%2BbHN7yqLumrM59yIsMdIRIbNKD%2FADFRyZU8fn2DSdmOmfogIw9VXi%2FDQqYkE6jUYf0kaEpaKpbwRHIe20MbpNrA2dz3AOrxD%2BOBJhw%2FIyOMCLHY0ci2KmT54vYWDiLb%2BdviwwHy4rO6kkwlt BnO5uRab3lXN6VGoIloE%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6rBm_XkYA
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Report this Post09-17-2022 08:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
88 owners, don't be typical cheap Fiero guys. It is a REAL pain in the ass trying to find an 88 brake master, especially when yours stops working and you really need one.

Grab this kit and put it away for when you actuallly need it, since it may not be available a couple of years from now!
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Just bought one to stick in the glove box, thanks for the heads up!
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Not cheap, but very hard to find. Not mine

https://www.ebay.com/itm/31...AfbthteapN7knV%2Ffwf


From GMPartsGiant.com: GM 18010083 Cylinder Kit, Brake Master
"This part does NOT fit the vehicle you selected: 1988 Pontiac Fiero"

Can anyone verify if the GM 18010083 kit works on a ’88 brake master cylinder?

My search for a 1988 Pontiac Fiero 2.8L 173cid V6 VIN:9

Brake Master Cylinder Rebuild Kit
Part# 18G1272 – ACDelco Gold
Part# 19114041 – GM

And like the Raybestos MK1486 Kit........

NO STOCK AVAILABLE / SOLD OUT

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FYI From OEMcats.com

GM 18010083 cylinder kit (ACDelco part number 175-399) fits Chevrolet Trucks, Oldsmobile Trucks, GMC Trucks...

LLV (Postal Vehicle) 1987...1995
Bravada 2WD 1991...1994
S10 Blazer 2WD 1991...1994
Bravada 4WD 1991...1994
S10 Blazer 4WD 1991...1994
S10 Pickup 4WD 1991...1994, 1995...2004
S10 Pickup 2WD 1991...1993, 1994...2003
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Report this Post03-16-2023 08:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Brian DSend a Private Message to Brian DEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I can confirm this part fits an 88 master cylinder. I bought one from this seller previously and rebuilt my original master, which is now sitting on the shelf in case of emergency 😁
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!988 brake master cylinder alternative by Rick Vanderpool

I've done some research online and have an idea of what can be used as a replacement for 1988 brake master cylinders. Looking at the Centric website I see the following;

Centric Part #130.62030 for 1988 Fiero lists the bore as 23.8 mm.

Centric Part #130.66011 for 1994 S10 lists the bore as 23.6 mm. [cut]


As I posted on this thread, GM says that the GM 18010083 kit works on the S10 brake master cylinder
but not for the '88 Fiero. Be careful as the diameter of this kit may by smaller than the '88 MC...
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Originally posted by Vintage-Nut:


As I posted on this thread, GM says that the GM 18010083 kit works on the S10 brake master cylinder
but not for the '88 Fiero. Be careful as the diameter of this kit may by smaller than the '88 MC...


https://www.tascaparts.com/...t-brk-m-cyl-18010083

https://www.wholesalegmpart...860408/18010083.html

https://www.gmpartscenter.n...-repair-kit-18010083

These sites list this kit as fitting 1988 Fiero. Additionally Brian D has used it and says it fits.

[This message has been edited by Rick Vanderpool (edited 03-23-2023).]

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Originally posted by Vintage-Nut:

So https://www.gmpartsgiant.co...m-repair-kt-18010083 is wrong?


I'd have to say yes, since I just finished installing this kit in my '88 master.
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Report this Post03-26-2023 04:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Vintage-NutSend a Private Message to Vintage-NutEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I finally found the '88 brake master cylinder rebuild kit in the part and illustration catalog:
Group 4.649 / Repair Kit 18010023

Thanks for the help!
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The difference between the S10 and fiero specs for bore diameter of 0.2mm is only .008" So the 18010083 kit may well work in the Fiero cylinder. Will .008" be a meaningful difference? The high pressure side (coming from the calipers) will force the ring to press on the bore and make the seal tighter. being flexible it probably will work ok. It's common to hone the MC bore or (old drum) wheel cylinder bores when rebuilding brakes. That removes metal and increases the bore diameter some but the brakes still work.

I found this video that gives a good description. In our instance the brakes are a high pressure device so the o-ring expands and presses on the bore wall and actuator block that holds the ring and is pressed by the brake pedal.

https://youtu.be/s5nJG0om8KY
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I finally found the '88 brake master cylinder rebuild kit in the part and illustration catalog:
Group 4.649 / Repair Kit 18010023


I'm Sorry - The Repair Kit is 18010083
(18010023 is the brake master cylinder)

And never hone the master cylinder....
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Originally posted by cam-a-lot:

88 owners, don't be typical cheap Fiero guys. It is a REAL pain in the ass trying to find an 88 brake master, especially when yours stops working and you really need one.

Grab this kit and put it away for when you actuallly need it, since it may not be available a couple of years from now!


For me, it's not being cheap. I've stocked up on a ton of spare parts. However, a brake master cylinder is one part I've never had an issue with in over 30 years and 5 Fieros of ownership. Doesn't seem like a high failure part and if it does fail, I've never seen one missing in the junkyards when I've gone part hunting. Seems like a non issue to me.
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Report this Post05-01-2023 06:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ray bSend a Private Message to ray bEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
they do not fail
IF you do NOT full stroke bleed the brakes [let the petal full travel]
that puts the piston&seal into the ruff unused part of the M/C
and byby seals

vac bleeds avoid that
as will careful minor strokes when bleeding

btw always bench bleed the New M/C
or the air will not come out by wheel bleeding
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