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FS: 88GT w/ 3800SC engine swap - Winner 2012 Carlisle MAFOA Best of Show / Best Paint by grsychckn
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Report this Post06-13-2013 01:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grsychcknClick Here to Email grsychcknSend a Private Message to grsychcknEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
A/C now working!

The time has come for me to gauge interest in my 88GT 3800SC. I originally purchased the car in 06 with 164k miles on it and it now has around 167k miles. I do not have a need to sell this car so I won't entertain "low-ball" offers. The car will be at the 30th Anniversary show in Indy (indoor show spot, towed inside enclosed trailer). Test drives at Indy will be limited to the access of taking the car out of the indoor show spot (may only be able to test drive Friday morning or Sunday morning at Indy). Below you'll find all the modifications I've done to it as well as a link to my build thread. If you have questions, feel free to ask.

Reason for offering it for sale: I am now in maintenance mode and am looking at getting a new project. I don't enjoy driving the car as much as I should because I know how much work I put into it and am paranoid about scratching the paint, breaking something, etc.

As you can tell, I don't drive it much. It has been reliable following my FWD Getrag conversion and I've put a few hundred miles on it since then without problems. It's a trailer-queen so buyer beware if you intend on an immediate cross-country trip.

Price: $12.5k.

Build Thread: //www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/077891.html

Information
167k on odometer
Winner Best in Show 2012 Carlisle (MAFOA)
Winner Best Paint 2012 Carlisle (MAFOA)
2012 Fiero Store Calendar (December)
1st Place Winner in Highly modified class at 30th anniversary in Indianapolis
Winner John Callis top 10 award at 30th anniversary in Indiapolis

Engine
3800SC with approximately 2500 miles
Ported inlet and outlet by Triple Edge Performance
Northstar Throttle Body
3.25" ZZP Modular Pulley
1.9 Ratio ZZP Modified Rockers (stock rockers included)
ZZP Short Stack Intercooler (FloJet pump installed under right front headlight)
OBD1.5 ECM custom programmed by Darth Fiero, USB connector for use with TunerPro RT
"Returnless" fuel system (returns at FPR located at base of tank)
Walbro Fuel Pump installed (Gas tank cleaned and painted, new neck/fuel hoses installed)

Exhaust
The Other Guys Extreme exhaust headers
Custom exhaust with stainless steel catalytic converter and Magnaflow muffler
Cadillac Exhaust tips
Trunk cut to fit exhaust

Transmission/Clutch
Used FWD transmission with internal hydraulic throwout bearing (approximately 70k on trans)
Fiero Store Stainless Steel Clutch line
Mcleod Sintered Iron Clutch and Pressure Plate
Fiero Store short shifter
Rodney Dickman leather shifter boot
NOS stock leather shift knob
Dakota Digital Speedo converter installed
Fiero Store Clutch master cylinder
Rodney Dickman select and shift cables
Rodney Dickman Transmission mounts
Rodney Dickman ultimate Getrag shift kit

Suspension / Steering
Front and Rear suspension powder coated - to include subframes, knuckles, and sway bars
KYB front and rear shocks/struts installed
Rear coilover springs installed
Rodney dickmans 1" lowering ball joints and upper ball joints installed on front
Polyurethane bushings installed on front and rear
Rebuilt Steering Rack from the Fiero Store
Front and rear wheel bearings
All new suspension/cradle bolts used
Rodney Dickman front and rear zero lash end links

Brakes
Fiero Store Stainless Steel Brake Lines
All 4 calipers replaced with Fiero Store reman units
Calipers powder coated
12" Corvette brake rotors installed
New master brake cylinder

Interior
Carpet installed on floor and doors*
Mr. Mikes Leatherette/Cloth seat covers
Steering Wheel recovered by Dallas Custom Steering Wheel
Infiniti and Pioneer speakers installed
Sony CD player installed (Red Display - Have brand new head unit in the box as spare)
Custom trunk carpet made with CNC'd Fiero logo painted to match body
Fiero Store window switches, dimmer switches, trunk release, and mirror switches

Exterior
Panel-off custom paint job*
Underbody painted while panels were off
Fiero Store Rear GT Lenses
OEM GT Quarter Windows
Custom painted supercharger*
Custom CNC'd/anodized valve covers
Underbody and engine bay painted with bedliner
New front windshield installed
Fiero Store front turn signals, body moldings (painted gloss black)
Dietmar Side Scoops
Snapperhead productions hood/trunk mirrors installed
Headlights from Fiero Store
Antenna "shaved" - installed horizontally under right front fender
Custom magnetic front license plate holder
Rodney Dickman front hood gas strut installed
Rodney Dickman rear decklid gas strut installed*

Wheels & Tires
HP Design Split 5 18" wheels with Sumitomo Summer tires*

Other
Air Conditioning system flushed with custom 3800 compressor lines made (FastFieros), New Accumulator, R134a o-rings installed, new orafice tube installed, freon lines flushed
Battery moved to the front using West Coast Fieros Carbon Fiber battery box*
Quick battery disconnect installed
NOS outer and inner dew wipes installed
NOS trunk gasket installed
Fiero Store coolant overflow tank
Fiero Store window fluid resovoir
EVAP canister moved to behind right rear quarter panel
3 gauge A-Pillar (boost, fuel pressure, wideband O2 sensor)

Extras
Extra dot matrix dash panels
Extra carpet
Others (will update)

*Notes
Carpet: I replaced the driver's carpet this month to fix where I cut too much the first time but now have a small tear near floor trim by hand break. Not viewable with floor mats.
Paint: Excellent shape. Small scratches exist on top of driver's ground effects. Only visible with door open. Driver's door was chipped (< 1/4") being opened into a jack stand at a service station during safety inspection.
Supercharger: Paint is starting to bubble and crack in places. It was not blasted before paint this last time.
Rear Decklid strut: Bolt connecting to the decklid bracket has been stripped. I used JBWeld and retapped to get bolt to stay, but should probably be fixed. Also, small paint chip where supercharger clamp rubbed the decklid.
Wheels: Small chip on one front wheel near center cap.
Battery Box: My first battery quick connect sparked while driving and evidence of flame is visible on top of box.

Pictures - I'll add more of suspension soon, more/larger available on request























































[This message has been edited by grsychckn (edited 07-25-2014).]

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Very impressive car. To rich for my budget but good luck with your sale. Free bump for ya!
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Originally posted by donnie072003:

Very impressive car. To rich for my budget but good luck with your sale. Free bump for ya!


Thank you very much. Weekend bump.
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I cannot say that a price of $15K doesn't reflect the work and time put into your Fiero. It is certainly a beautiful car and to the right collector with deep pockets, perhaps it will sell. Just realize that you are dealing with a cheap market and cars that need to sell in that market are not usually high dollar. This is because $15 K puts you into a whole other class of collector vehicles that include Vettes, Vipers, Challengers, Mustangs and many classic vehicles.
I do hope that you get your price but when you see the offers that come in, you very well may be wise to keep the car. We've seen custom Fiero's being sold here for $10K with no takers and parted out. The Fiero market is a tough sell proposition. Good luck with the sale.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Powerlog manifold, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Flotech Afterburner Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

I cannot say that a price of $15K doesn't reflect the work and time put into your Fiero. It is certainly a beautiful car and to the right collector with deep pockets, perhaps it will sell. Just realize that you are dealing with a cheap market and cars that need to sell in that market are not usually high dollar. This is because $15 K puts you into a whole other class of collector vehicles that include Vettes, Vipers, Challengers, Mustangs and many classic vehicles.
I do hope that you get your price but when you see the offers that come in, you very well may be wise to keep the car. We've seen custom Fiero's being sold here for $10K with no takers and parted out. The Fiero market is a tough sell proposition. Good luck with the sale.



Agreed. I know there's a good chance I don't get an offer at this price - that's ok, I'm ready to keep it for a while. There just isn't much money in the market for these cars.

Update: I also have a car capsule (large size) that will go with the car if it sells and an Asus Nexus 7 that will come preloaded with all the images of the car and a custom Android application I'm writing to display a picture gallery of the car while at a show. I'm working on where to mount the locking RAM-Mount so it can sit somewhere people can stand and browse the build. I'm also going to try and get video of the car this upcoming weekend and get the A/C running.
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Good looking car. I just bought one or it'd be right up my alley. Good luck with the sale.

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Originally posted by ls3mach:

Good looking car. I just bought one or it'd be right up my alley. Good luck with the sale.



Thanks - I hope you enjoy your new Fiero.
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Report this Post06-25-2013 09:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grsychcknClick Here to Email grsychcknSend a Private Message to grsychcknEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Bump for Indy and an update to say that the AC did not take the charge. The compressor would not engage so there's probably a wiring issue to figure out. Given that, I'll consider offers while in Indy.
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Report this Post06-08-2014 03:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grsychcknClick Here to Email grsychcknSend a Private Message to grsychcknEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Update: Just had my first child on April 1 and I'm seriously thinking of selling again. Since I never got a chance to work out the A/C issue and never got a solid offer, I'm changing the price to $12.5k. I will consider offers. I haven't driven it since Indy last year.
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Sooooooo Tempting
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Beautiful Fiero. Exactly what I'm looking for except a V8. So here's a bump. GLWS sincerely.
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Nice! I wish!
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Report this Post06-13-2014 05:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grsychcknClick Here to Email grsychcknSend a Private Message to grsychcknEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the well wishing. I've been so busy this week I haven't had a chance to reply to the thread. Weekend bump. When I get some free time I'll probably get current pictures and make a listing on Ebay if no one shows interest here.
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Another bump to say I have seen the car and it has been done with the fine details in mind.
Extremely nice car.

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Wow,..that is one beautiful Fiero !

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Stunning example of what GM should have made of these cars!

Good luck with the sale! :-)
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Thank you all for the kind words. Bump + Link to listing on ebay.

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Is the car still availible?
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Report this Post07-10-2014 05:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grsychcknClick Here to Email grsychcknSend a Private Message to grsychcknEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It did not sell on ebay so I'm actually going to fix the A/C and relist for a bit more money. I will update this thread when the A/C is working. Also, I'm going to take it to a dyno and post the results next time I sell it along with a video of the car.

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Report this Post07-25-2014 08:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grsychcknClick Here to Email grsychcknSend a Private Message to grsychcknEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Bump because A/C now working.
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I can't believe this car hasn't sold yet! Probably one of the nicest cars on our forum! I've seen this car in person, and it is top notch!

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Report this Post08-12-2014 12:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grsychcknClick Here to Email grsychcknSend a Private Message to grsychcknEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have a buyer and will haul the trailer up to him this Friday. I'll be receiving his 88GT in return so I won't be out of the Fiero game just yet. Look for another build thread of some kind soon.
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congratulations and looking forward to the next build you do.

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How about building an Indy 3800SC??
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