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My 87 GT quit running. by fastbackrick
Started on: 06-16-2025 10:36 PM
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Report this Post06-16-2025 10:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fastbackrickSend a Private Message to fastbackrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
While idling in my driveway, my 87 GT suddenly quit running. It has no spark from the coil to the distributor, although I have 12 volts at the connector to the coil, and 12 volts from the coil to the module. I replaced the incredibly corroded distributor last year...and now...bought a new coil, as it was a factory original, and also replaced the cap/rotor. Any suggestions as to where else to check for a problem ??
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Originally posted by fastbackrick:

I replaced the incredibly corroded distributor last year...


The replacement distributor probably has a no-name ICM which has now possibly failed. Does the tach move when cranking over the engine?

Try disconnecting the electrical terminals at the distributor (including the pickup coil inside the distributor), check for corrosion, and then re-connect the terminals. Sometimes it's just a poor connection that causes an issue.

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Agree with Patrick... it's probably the ICM. This video might help... there's also an upgrade you can do to your distributor that adds a heat sink to it that'll make them last longer. This video is for a 2.5 distributor rebuild, but links and information are there to buy the heat sink, etc.


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Report this Post06-17-2025 10:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike in SydneySend a Private Message to Mike in SydneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
ICM. They are prone to heat failure and if the car was idling there's a good chance it was not getting enough cooling.

You can try this to see if it is the ICM. Buy a can of compressed air (Air Duster) like you use to blow stuff out of a keyboard or you PC motherboard. Turn it upside down and spray the ICM. You should get a stream of super cold liquid out of the nozzle. Sometimes this will restore the failed ICM for a short while.

This is just to check if the ICM is failed. It's not a guarantee that it will work but if it does, chances are the ICM is failing due to heat.

BTW, when replacing the ICM, make sure to use the right thermal paste. Do not use dielectric grease which some ICM suppliers pack with the ICM. You want good heat transfer, not insulation.
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Report this Post06-18-2025 01:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FrenchrafeSend a Private Message to FrenchrafeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ignition control module or the pickup coil in the distributor.
I had both of these go bad when I was still with a 2.8L, many years ago.

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Report this Post06-18-2025 07:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I would venture to say that the ICM on the Fiero 2.8 liter engines is probably the number one ignition item that fails. On a Fiero you have solid state electronics located not far from the hot crossover pipe. Only the highest quality ignition module like the AC Delco can survive in that environment. When I have encountered a faulty ignition the first thing done is to get out the tester and test the module. Some Autozone Stores advertise that they test ignition modules but when you go into the store looking for a test, you're greeted with WHAT Dah.....????

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Report this Post06-18-2025 10:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fastbackrickSend a Private Message to fastbackrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the feedback guys. I would also think the module is the problem...but I did have a new AC/Delco ignition module that I purchased awhile back just to have one in case AC/Delco stopped making them....I put it in...and still no spark.
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Originally posted by fastbackrick:

...still no spark.


One more time...

 
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Originally posted by Patrick Here:

Does the tach move when cranking over the engine?

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Report this Post06-19-2025 10:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fastbackrickSend a Private Message to fastbackrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yes...the tach moves off of zero while cranking
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Yes...the tach moves off of zero while cranking

you got fuel pressure or a fuel pump priming then? its gotta be spark or fuel/fuel map related if it shut off while idling and it wont restart and didnt make any bad noises beforehand. or you forgot to tighten the distributor and it turned enough to be an issue finally
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Originally posted by fastbackrick:

Yes...the tach moves off of zero while cranking


Well, it's probably not the ICM and/or pickup coil then. Lots of threads cover this, including This one.
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