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Brakes by LS4FieroGuy
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Anybody have any experience with the Carbomet brake pads? Are they any better then normal semi metallic?

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Originally posted by LS4FieroGuy:

Anybody have any experience with the Carbomet brake pads? Are they any better then normal semi metallic?


not from first hand experience. however,
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...090907-2-091174.html
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I ran them for years, but the first couple stops in the morning had much less bite and then they got better.

Yellow stuff pads are really, really good with strong initial bite and minimal fade. The only two downsides: they dust like crazy and are about $85 per end of the car.
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Are they any better then normal semi metallic?

“It Depends”

Differences in brake pad materials have advantages and disadvantages...

Cold Bite
Temperature / Fade
Noise
Brake Pad Wear
Rotor Wear
Dust / Color
Cost

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I'm primarily looking for the fastest possible stopping distance (as much as you can get without a brake swap).
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I'm primarily looking for the fastest possible stopping distance

Cold Bite or Hot Laps?

Which Brake Pads Have the Best Stopping Power?
https://www.brakepadboss.co...best-stopping-power/
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Originally posted by fieroguru:

I ran them for years, but the first couple stops in the morning had much less bite and then they got better.


Same here. A few times, it actually put me in dangerous situations when I had to brake hard before the pads were properly warmed up. It's a scary feeling when you press the brake pedal as hard as you can and the car barely slows down... 😬

So I ended up switching back to regular brake pads.
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Originally posted by Vintage-Nut:

Cold Bite or Hot Laps?

Which Brake Pads Have the Best Stopping Power?
https://www.brakepadboss.co...best-stopping-power/


Just all around performance. It's a street car but I still wanna be able to lock up all 4 wheels.
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Originally posted by LS4FieroGuy:


Just all around performance. It's a street car but I still wanna be able to lock up all 4 wheels.


So cold bite, on the street it won't get hot enough or keep hot enough to "feel" performance, my 85 brake pads, Bosch premium something or other will only just lock up the wheels when cold, barely, when warm (after 2 stops from 50mph) they lock up easily, I wouldn't want any less for street driving, as it is it ends up feeling more sluggish as they almost never get warm enough to work as good as I might like, and those are fairly normal semi metallic pads. There are always drawbacks to each option, you need to decide what you want and what suits you, and what you can live without. For the Fiero you likely won't find "all around performance", everything is a compromise, want more cold bite, they will overheat and fade, want less fade and overheating, say goodbye to cold bite.
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I already said that differences in brake pad materials have advantages and disadvantages.

And like many things in the world, you can't have both cold bite AND high-temperature performance!

Please read members comments above and to me - COLD BITE is VERY important for a street pad so I use semi-metallic...

Consider This Example

You're late to work one morning and speeding in your neighborhood...

A kid darts to the street from the parked cars and your brakes didn't have any time to 'warm-up'...

Do you hit the kid or stop in time?

EDIT - My suggestion is to read more "Brake Pads" threads to decide on your "around performance"
https://www.fierosearch.com...=DoSearch&datesort=D

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Originally posted by LS4FieroGuy:


Just all around performance. It's a street car but I still wanna be able to lock up all 4 wheels.

your fiero should lock up the tires with ease if its working right. i know our 84, 87 and 88 all do it with stock brakes and the cheapest pad (semi Metallics or regular Metallics in this case.)cold or even when the brakes are hot enough to start smoking
do remember a brake locked up doesnt stop any better though. you want to be just before the limit of the tire and any pad or brake for the fiero will do it.
for spirited street driving 85gt is right to suggest a semi metallic or less. if your doing 60-0 over and over more than 5x in a row maybe it's time to think about what street driving means truly (and a brake caliper and rotor upgrade.)
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I guess after it was explained I'm looking for good cold bite. But I would still like something that holds up to a little heat. Any brand suggestions?
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Originally posted by LS4FieroGuy:

I guess after it was explained I'm looking for good cold bite. But I would still like something that holds up to a little heat. Any brand suggestions?


Yellow Stuff. They work great under all conditions.
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Originally posted by fieroguru:


Yellow Stuff. They work great under all conditions.


Thanks Guru. I'll give them a shot.
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