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Either Chinese relay for Headlight Control Module repair or good source for HCM by John W. Tilford
Started on: 03-29-2025 01:45 PM
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1988 GT, 3.4, 4T60

Still having issue with driver side headlight not popping up. Replaced slotted plastic big gear with Rodney's steel. Replaced motor white plugs. Used enclosed grease. Headlight popped up fine for a few times, then sometimes, now never. Passenger side fine.

Paid way too much for a "new" HCM. Didn't work at all. Put old HCM back in. At least right side headlight pops up all the time.

Saw this video: https://youtu.be/nafNZ6vx-V4 Looks promising, but can't find a source for the transparent cased relay.

So . . any ideas for source for a new 12 volt relay to install in original TCM?

Or, any reliable source for a new HCM?

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Report this Post03-29-2025 02:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IMSA GTSend a Private Message to IMSA GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
This is as close as I could find to the video. Same relay, just 12 volts only and 3amp instead of 5. Whatever route you go, you'll need to make sure it is "through hole" mount like the one I linked.
https://www.digikey.com/en/...y/MY4-02-DC12/283171

Here's the pinout

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Report this Post03-29-2025 03:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Vintage-NutSend a Private Message to Vintage-NutEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
To Me, don't attempt to replace the relay IF you don't have the proper soldering tools and skills.

GM still offers the OEM part number 16523917...{hold on your butt}

Eckler's Corvette # 25-376108-1 is cheaper

FYI - Fiero Headlight System Troubleshooting by Oliver Scholz {'84 thru '88}
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/headlight.html

Also - Headlights: Left will go up, neither will go down by Cliff Pennock
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...130314-2-095675.html

EDIT - I finally found *This* thread from last year....
Headlight Door Control Module by gregr75
 
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And a second word of warning, some are "refurbished" by replacing defective MOSFETs.


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Report this Post03-29-2025 07:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
You can buy a brand new headlight control module. Just a simple plug and play solution.
New Headlight Control Module

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Just ordered the Eckler's EK-25-376108-1. This evening (29 March - Vietnam Veterans Day ) they had three "open box" headlight control modules. Two "good" and one "very good". The very good was $81 + reasonable shipping and sales tax = $97.32. The same EK number not open box was $270.

Certainly worth a try!

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Report this Post03-30-2025 02:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierofoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If the new relay doesn't fix the problem, try replacing the headlight switch. That was the problem on one of mine. Each motor has it's own switch circuit.

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