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Another raditor fan not working thread by dhardison
Started on: 11-12-2023 02:46 PM
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Report this Post11-12-2023 02:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dhardisonSend a Private Message to dhardisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
1985 GT 2.8l - The radiator fan will NOT come on when the engine reaches temp.
The fan DOES work with the A/C switch on and also when 'hotwired', so the fan itself and relay are good.
I've replaced the coolant fan switch (the sensor next to the t-stat housing with the one-wire connector), but it did not help.
The temp gauge works properly as well.

Thoughts on what I can check next?

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Report this Post11-12-2023 03:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IMSA GTSend a Private Message to IMSA GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Although I don't know too much about this, my understanding is that the fan will not turn on until the temp gets to 235. Are you letting it get to that temperature?

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

Although I don't know too much about this, my understanding is that the fan will not turn on until the temp gets to 235. Are you letting it get to that temperature?

235 seems high, but I don't know the temp either. I let the engine get to 225, which was high enough for coolant to spew out of the coolant overflow tank (has a new cap).

EDIT**: After some more research, the switch kicks on the fan at 230. I never let it get that high, mainly due to the coolant spewing from the tank. Maybe it was overfilled, I dunno.

I'm going to ground the connector at the switch to make sure the wiring is good.

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Report this Post11-12-2023 04:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FrenchrafeSend a Private Message to FrenchrafeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Coolant coming out of the overflow?
Seems like you have a bad radiator cap.
Check the hoses when the engine is running and warm. Are the hoses fairly rigid? If not, you haven't the right pressure in the cooling system.

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Originally posted by Frenchrafe:
Coolant coming out of the overflow?
Seems like you have a bad radiator cap.
Check the hoses when the engine is running and warm. Are the hoses fairly rigid? If not, you haven't the right pressure in the cooling system.
nice call as said is "boil over" & dash gauge reads < 250°F... If true, yes something is wrong but can be more then rad cap problem.

Coolant mix is first to test w/ any "float" tester because below 50/50 mix will easily "boil over."
Example: Any that put premixed coolant after flushing will have weak coolant because system has a lot of trapped water.
watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW-iI9Vgx58 Note that old coolant may be Ok for boil/freeze but lost anti rust & other additives that any float types can't tell.

That even w/ 15-16psi non-vent rad cap...

See https://web.archive.org/web...erocave/coolfill.htm & rest of section

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Report this Post11-13-2023 09:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Vintage-NutSend a Private Message to Vintage-NutEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I believe the schematic will help and check the coolant temperature switch wiring



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Report this Post11-13-2023 04:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dhardisonSend a Private Message to dhardisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks to all for the replies/info. Here are some updates from my end.

- I grounded the radiator fan switch at the connector and the fan comes on, so the wiring is good.
- I tested the coolant and the freezing point shows well above a 50/50 coolant/water mixture
- I fired up the engine and let it come up to temp long enough for the high-temp idiot light to illuminate on the dash, but the fan never came on. It also did not puke anything out of the front tank, so I may have just had it overfilled. The coolant hoses were tight, so it's building/holding pressure.

At this point the only way to get the fan to kick on is to engage the A/C or hotwire it.

So, all the following is new (all from RockAuto):
Radiator fan switch
Radiator cap (engine)
Thermostat

I'll check the schematic and see what I can determine, but for whatever reason the radiator fan switch doesn't appear to be doing its job. Faulty (new) sensor possibly......

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Originally posted by dhardison:

I'll check the schematic and see what I can determine, but for whatever reason the coolant sensor doesn't appear to be doing its job. Faulty (new) sensor possibly...


I assume you're referring to the fan switch.

A lot of us use Rodney's 210° on and 200° off fan switch.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

I assume you're referring to the fan switch.

A lot of us use Rodney's 210° on and 200° off fan switch.


Yes, the radiator fan switch. I bought the following from RockAuto (https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=929686&cc=1249040&pt=4312&jsn=5).

Thanks for the info on the Rodney Dickman switch. Sounds like it's worth a try.

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Originally posted by dhardison:
So, all the following is new (all from RockAuto):
Radiator fan switch
Radiator cap (engine)
Thermostat
You must check the Rad Cap is a Non-vented Cap. See Rad Cap in Cave.
Do Not trust RA or anyone else, including "Stant" parts since since Stant is Gone.
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