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Door skin screws/bolts by CSM842M4
Started on: 10-07-2021 06:54 AM
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I'm finally getting the heads of the outer door skin fasteners cleaned out to accept the T35 bit so I can remove them. But just in case I damage one or seven of them in the process, does anybody know of a reliable source for these silly things? Just by myself, if things go as bad as they can, I could end up using 42 of them at one time. I'm not opposed to making something else work, but the original genuine article just looks right. Any input is appreciated. Thanks in advance - Chris
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Are these the bolts with the large black-plastic-covered head? New ones used to be available.... Used to. Maybe the source has dried up because I don't see them any more.

If you're unscrewing the old ones, you can improve your odds of removing them successfully if you first take a razor blade and slice off the black plastic covering from the face of the bolt. There is another Torx (or Phillips if you have an '84) there in the metal bolt which you are much less likely to strip. Use the appropriate Torx socket in a ratchet instead of a regular screwdriver-style Torx.
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Thanks, css9450. I read that advice in fierohoho's (I think) thread on removing the skins, and it's the only way I've been able to get ANY of the screws to budge. Actually been using a die grinder and a 120-grit disc to make the plastic go away. Then a little bitty flat screwdriver to dig the plastic out of the head, then the T35 bit to get the screws out. Ugh! But if it makes the wife happy,...
I saw where someone had a set (one door's worth) of those screws on ebay. Can't remember seeing whether they had any more than the one bag of seven, but they showed to be from Auveco. Their website hasn't showed me any yet, but I'm not done looking.
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I recently bought a pack of 7 fasteners from this vendor on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133271205187
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Thanks, batboy. Yep, that's the same seller I spotted earlier. I was hoping to find them still available from the original supplier or another aftermarket source with an enormous supply. I'm sure something else could be pressed into service when it becomes necessary, I would just rather that not be right now.
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Originally posted by CSM842M4:

Thanks, batboy. Yep, that's the same seller I spotted earlier. I was hoping to find them still available from the original supplier or another aftermarket source with an enormous supply. I'm sure something else could be pressed into service when it becomes necessary, I would just rather that not be right now.


No worries the plastic coated fasteners that hold the door skin can almost always be reused. As pointed out once the plastic is scraped away from the head area around the hex it exposes the steel hex that enable the screw to be removed with a standard hex bit. When finished you can recoat those screws with electric spray insulation or black "Liquid Tape"

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If you have access to a 3-D printer you might try using these. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4685090 They worked for me.
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Thanks, Dennis and Mike. Yep, I ended up shaving/grinding the plastic off of the heads, then digging the remaining plastic out of the recesses in the heads, and finally using a borrowed T35 bit to loosen and turn them out. I'm open to the idea of a 2-piece fastener system to replace them; looks like I'm going to have to learn more about thingiverse and 3d printing...
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Originally posted by batboy:

I recently bought a pack of 7 fasteners from this vendor on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133271205187


A price of $24.99 for just seven small hex screws is highway robbery. As I said if you need to scrape the old bolt head to expose the hex, black Liquid Tape or black plasti dip coating spray will do a great job of re-coating them. Don't allow the price gougers to steal your hard earned money.

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