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Clamshell thru the firewall by longjonsilver
Started on: 02-04-2021 05:46 PM
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How do you disassemble the clamshell that protects wires thru the firewall? Do you use heat? Do you boil it?
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I suspended it in boiling water and the hot glue (or whatever) inside softened and you can separate the parts.

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I submerged my bulkhead pass-through in boiling water, but I didn't separate it.

The glue softened enough that I could simply pull wires out / push new wires through, without disassembly.
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Originally posted by pmbrunelle:

I submerged my bulkhead pass-through in boiling water, but I didn't separate it.

The glue softened enough that I could simply pull wires out / push new wires through, without disassembly.


Some wires are wrapped around the internal clip, so not all wires can simply be pulled out.
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Thanks guys, off the the Coleman stove i go.

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Originally posted by fieroguru:

Some wires are wrapped around the internal clip, so not all wires can simply be pulled out.


I've taken a couple of Fiero ones apart, as well as similar parts for a couple of Caddy harnesses. IIRC, in the ones I've taken apart, there was only one wire wrapped around one tine of the "organizer", I @$$ume to hold it in place while they're potting it.
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And if anyone has a part number for these clamshell halves, please spill the beans!
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Their "bulkhead" pass through parts.
Is, more likely Was, a GM "Packard" part label w/ PED somewhere and later made by Delphi Spinoff now called Aptiv own by BorgWarner Inc. in the UK.

Delphi.com Won't sell to you and finding a dealer w/ this exact part is unlikely and if you find one that works is often expensive.

GM dealers often can't get these then or now except buying complete harnesses.

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The issue is that the part does not have any part number on it.
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Most other E-parts don't numbers too.
Many OE plugs etc only have PED on them thru 1990's.
PED is Packard Electric Division of Old GM before spinoff all parts to Delphi.

You and Dealers can't get many plugs etc even thru GM.
Some parts are sold thru Dorman and other 3rd parties but often only common parts used by many models like Green MAP plug loose or as a Pig Tail "kit."
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Originally posted by theogre:

Most other E-parts don't numbers too.
Many OE plugs etc only have PED on them thru 1990's.
PED is Packard Electric Division of Old GM before spinoff all parts to Delphi.

You and Dealers can't get many plugs etc even thru GM.
Some parts are sold thru Dorman and other 3rd parties but often only common parts used by many models like Green MAP plug loose or as a Pig Tail "kit."


Ballenger motorsports, EFI connection, Waytek, Mouser and dozens of other retailers sell the pins, shells, and seals. I use all new stuff when I make a harness.

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What the separated pieces look like.

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Originally posted by ericjon262:
Ballenger motorsports, EFI connection, Waytek, Mouser and dozens of other retailers sell the pins, shells, and seals. I use all new stuff when I make a harness.
Yes, C500 and other Pins are easy find and tools to make/handle them too. Some Shells are "Standard" and available. Some Shells and other parts was never available to the public and many others not even for GM dealer service and no GM/PED/Delpni # published.

Delphi even put out big catalog in a Public PDF years ago but often didn't have many GM shells etc.

So might find a 3rd party w/ X part but often can't search w/ GM and other "universal" PN.
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How do you get that clamshell back thru the firewall? i had some trouble getting the clamshell back together until i realized that the rear slides together the front snaps. But i am having a bear of a time getting the rear clip on the clamshell. Any tricks?

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The black side hooks in while the grey side clips in.
You have to put it in cockeyed to get the black side to hook, then rotate it into the correct orientation to get the grey side to clip in. Then you can install the retainer.
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Thanks Will. Much obliged
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