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Making my own spark plug wires. Good idea? by Cliff Pennock
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My Fiero needs new spark plug wires but I'm unable to find them here in the Netherlands. So I'm thinking of making my own. One thing I noticed on the current wires is that they don't have heat shields at the engine side. Is that a problem?

Anyway, does anyone know the correct lengths for the wires (min/max is fine)? Best wire thickness? Resistance?
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I've always built my own spark plug wire set to get a hotter spark to the plugs. For this I purchase a Universal set of MSD superconductor wires, cut them to size and crimp on the coil (distributor) side contacts with the enclosed tool. MSD Superconductor 8mm wire has a resistance of only 50 ohms per ft. Regular performance wires are rated at 300 ohms per ft and standard factory wire is 5000 ohms per ft. Less resistance = hotter spark

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Rock Auto will mail a Standard Motor Products Pro Series 27667 wire set to Haarlem by 30Sep2020 for $37.10 US including customs.
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Rock Auto will mail a Standard Motor Products Pro Series 27667 wire set


Are they any good? It's just... $17 for spark plug wires... Over here a decent set of wires would set you back for well over $100.
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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:


Are they any good? It's just... $17 for spark plug wires... Over here a decent set of wires would set you back for well over $100.


Standard Motor Products pro series ignition wires are silicone and made from spiral core wire. They are good and will work. IMO, not as good as the MSD Superconductor wire but for a stock engine they should work well.

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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:


Are they any good? It's just... $17 for spark plug wires... Over here a decent set of wires would set you back for well over $100.


I can't personally vouch for the quality, but I've had very good success with everything I've sourced from Rock Auto for a variety of vehicles.
They have 11 choices of wire sets that were supplied for 20 vehicle lines from 1985 to 1993 ranging from $5.27 to $26.79 which is the "high performance" 8.5 mm set.
The set I showed above has a heart beside it in their listing, indicating it's a popular choice. The $26.79 set has a heart showing as well.

Have a look here: https://www.rockauto.com/en...k+plug+wire+set,7224

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Less resistance does equal hotter spark but less duration
Of said spark....I guess if you’re using a MSD system it doesn’t much matter as you get multiple sparks.
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

For this I purchase a Universal set of MSD superconductor wires, cut them to size and crimp on the coil (distributor) side contacts with the enclosed tool.


I use those too. The crimping and cutting tool works flawlessly.

I like to take my time and ensure the lengths are just right so that the "droop" of each wire is the same, particularly on the rear (visible) side of the engine. It always bugs me when the pre-made wires wires fit all differently and one hangs down really low, the next one is borderline too short, etc.

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I've ordered a set of the Standard Motor Products Pro Series Ignition Wires. They are cheap, arrive here next week and will undoubtedly be better than the (sparking) wires I have now. I can always switch to the more expensive MSD wires later. I just need to get my Fiero running properly ASAP so I can get it through inspection.
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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

I've ordered a set of the Standard Motor Products Pro Series Ignition Wires. They are cheap, arrive here next week and will undoubtedly be better than the (sparking) wires I have now. I can always switch to the more expensive MSD wires later. I just need to get my Fiero running properly ASAP so I can get it through inspection.


The Standard Pro-Series wires are all you need.
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Cool, thanks. 👍
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Okay, so I didn't make my own cables, but I did make these on my 3D printer. 😁

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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
Okay, so I didn't make my own cables, but I did make these on my 3D printer. 😁

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What type filament?
Because many plastics don't last long exposed to high heat, ozone, oil/grease, etc in an engine bay even if you don't drive daily.
Is why many things like wiring plugs are types like PP or Nylon derivatives.

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PLA. Ik know it's probably not going to last very long, mostly due to the heat and because PLA is a thermoplast. But it was nice having another excuse to use the 3D printer. 😁
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