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Inner Door Panel Removal by RotrexFiero
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Report this Post12-15-2019 09:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yes, I've already did a search.

Where do you start to removed the inner door panel on the driver side? I need to get to the mounting bolts for the side mirror.

Preferably with as little damage as possible. Are the infamous plastic rivets used? I imagine they are dried and are brittle. I dont readily see any bolts or screws.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xccyDDAAuW4

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Report this Post12-15-2019 11:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the video link. Very helpful.

The resolution was not that good, but can you access the side mirror mounts from there?
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Originally posted by RotrexFiero:

The resolution was not that good, but can you access the side mirror mounts from there?


Door panel off and window down - YES...
Remove 2 nuts on mirror studs (power or manual)


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Report this Post12-15-2019 11:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cvxjetSend a Private Message to cvxjetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
You have to remove the inner window seal and front seal, then you will have access to the nuts. The studs from the mirror run thru the outer window seal framework. Just take your time removing the nuts.

Also, on removing the inner door panel; Use a wide-tip slot screwdriver to pop each one individually- be careful so you do not rip the plastic pieces out of the door panel.



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Report this Post12-15-2019 11:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Neils88Send a Private Message to Neils88Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Here's a writeup I did a while ago. The first part shows a step by step to remove the door panel.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/133353.html
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Report this Post12-16-2019 09:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Did you say, "Be careful you dont rip the plastic pieces out of the door panel?"

I think the mailbox post did that for me.

Ouch!!!


PS -- These side mirrors are aluminum, die cast it appears. I am going to try to reweld them. Some of that alumi-weld from HF.

Think it will hold? I just ripped the studs out. I think I can fill in with some weld, smooth it over then drill and tap it out. The mirror housing is fine.

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You could do that with good epoxy.
Mix it up, spread on stud threads and inside hole, insert stud and let cure.
Use slow-cure epoxy for the strongest bond.

It would be hard to fill the stripped hole with weld.

Gall57 makes a valid point. Good luck welding zinc....
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stock Fiero side mirror housings are zinc die cast.
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Report this Post12-16-2019 12:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cvxjetSend a Private Message to cvxjetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hey- If you need to fix/replace your side mirror, I would think replacement would be better than trying to fix it; Just checked on "Row 52" and there is an 84 Fiero in Elmira, NY in "Horseheads Pick-a-part"....You could also try in the mall and see if someone has a extra they could sell you, or Fiero Factory in AL.......Also, I believe other GM vehicles use that same mirror.....

Row 52 usually has pics of the car so you can see where it was damaged (Basically)

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I fixed the studs in the passenger-side mirror by mixing up some JB-Weld and filling the hole. I then pushed the stud in to the hole and wiped off the excess JB-Weld. It worked great. If the stud is broken you could try drilling it out and replacing it with a piece of all-thread rod cut off to the right length. If that doesn't work, the side mirrors from the 1984-1988 Firebirds and Camaros will fit if you need a complete replacement.

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I have to voice a little disagreement with the method used in the video posted by ltlfrari. Grabbing the door panel and yanking it off with your hands is a good way to break the holes where the umbrella fasteners are inserted. You also stand a chance of breaking the metal pieces at each upper corner, away from the panel. Best to use a door panel removal tool to insert behind the door panel and exert the pressure against the fastener, instead. The structural material our panels are made from is weak and it really isn't difficult to break the holes where the fasteners are inserted.

The tool on the left is the one that works best on our door panels.
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Best way to remove the inner door panel is to remove the arm rest, then remove the door latch plate, then use a door panel removal tool to pry out each door clip one by one going around the door. The trick is to make sure that the remover tool is always around the clip before you pry it out. Otherwise you will tear the panel. When all clips have been pried out then you just lift the panel away. . Once you have fixed the mirror its a good idea to replace the water barrier with THIN soundproofing insulation. and press/snap the clips back into the door one by one starting at the top and going around the panel one by one.

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Report this Post12-17-2019 09:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The driver's side mirrors are at a premium.

That's the side that gets ripped of the most.

I'll look around here.

The posts on the mirror are threaded. I'll try a little welding to see if it works. See if I can weld some studs to it.

It's always good to have many solutions to a single problem.

Even better, is to have someone that knows exactly what they're doing, but I don't have that.

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By chance, a while back, I passed a small local junk yard and spotted a small 84 Fiero sitting in the back. So I stopped by. Driver's Side mirror on a pretty smashed up Fiero. The little guy looked pretty sick.

Inquired with the guy there and for $35 plus tax he will pull it for me.

My mirror is remote.

How do you remove the guts from these things?!

The only thing I see are two small screws behind the mirror itself. I hope all these mirror housings are the same!!!

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Someone recently posted that they aren't the same inside. Something about the screw mounts inside the housing.
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I posted the info concerning the differences in the shells.

There are three screws, not two...
Keep looking behind the edge of the mirror.

You cannot weld zinc.
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