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Chevy Celebrity and Fiero Brake Calipers-any difference? by Dennis LaGrua
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Report this Post09-02-2019 12:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I ran across a front brake caliper from a Chevrolet Celebrity at the junkyard recently and it looked very similar to what the Fiero uses. Does anyone know if these calipers interchange with the Fiero? If so we can save a lot of money as rebuilt units are less costly .

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Report this Post09-02-2019 08:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpoonSend a Private Message to SpoonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hey Dennis, I don't know the year Celebrity you saw but I just searched Rock Auto and here are the results.

(FRONT CALIPER)
BUICK CENTURY 1983-1996
BUICK ELECTRA 1985-1990
BUICK LESABRE 1986-1991
CADILLAC DEVILLE 1985-1990
CADILLAC FLEETWOOD 1985-1990
CHEVROLET CELEBRITY 1983-1990
CHEVROLET LUMINA APV 1990-1991
OLDSMOBILE 98 1985-1990
OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA 1983-1996
OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CRUISER 1987-1992
OLDSMOBILE DELTA 88 1986-1991
OLDSMOBILE SILHOUETTE 1990-1991
PONTIAC 6000 1983-1991
PONTIAC BONNEVILLE 1987-1991
PONTIAC TRANS SPORT 1990-1991

I also looked up Fiero 84-87 and 88 and they don't show any interchange whatsoever.

So the search continues.....

Spoon

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Report this Post09-03-2019 08:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Spoon:

Hey Dennis, I don't know the year Celebrity you saw but I just searched Rock Auto and here are the results.

(FRONT CALIPER)
BUICK CENTURY 1983-1996
BUICK ELECTRA 1985-1990
BUICK LESABRE 1986-1991
CADILLAC DEVILLE 1985-1990
CADILLAC FLEETWOOD 1985-1990
CHEVROLET CELEBRITY 1983-1990
CHEVROLET LUMINA APV 1990-1991
OLDSMOBILE 98 1985-1990
OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA 1983-1996
OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CRUISER 1987-1992
OLDSMOBILE DELTA 88 1986-1991
OLDSMOBILE SILHOUETTE 1990-1991
PONTIAC 6000 1983-1991
PONTIAC BONNEVILLE 1987-1991
PONTIAC TRANS SPORT 1990-1991

I also looked up Fiero 84-87 and 88 and they don't show any interchange whatsoever.

So the search continues.....

Spoon




I would say that the difference between those named above and the Fiero calipers is probably small. The brake hose connection for the more common caliper appears to be at the rear not on the top so a different brake hose may be needed But will it fit the knuckle? Until we have the units side by side we won't know.

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Report this Post09-03-2019 10:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for wftbSend a Private Message to wftbEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The last rebuilt rear caliper I bought had the wrong hardware for mounting the parking brake cable. Not a problem, I just swapped them over. But that indicates to me that the Fiero caliper was used on other cars, just with different hardware. I think cross referencing would not work because of the different hardware, but it doesn't mean there are no similar calipers out there.

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Report this Post09-05-2019 08:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rick MorehouseSend a Private Message to Rick MorehouseEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Just an FYI: I've used 84 Chevy Citation front calipers on my fieros, just swap the them left to right on the rear. Yep, no park brake stuff.
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Report this Post09-05-2019 09:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The rotor specs for the caliper will give you a lot more info too.
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Originally posted by Rick Morehouse:

Just an FYI: I've used 84 Chevy Citation front calipers on my fieros, just swap the them left to right on the rear. Yep, no park brake stuff.


Did you have to change the rotors?
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Celebrity and Citation used vented rotors, so yes you would need to swap. You would want the non-HD Celebrity parts.

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Originally posted by RacerX11:

Celebrity and Citation used vented rotors, so yes you would need to swap. You would want the non-HD Celebrity parts.



If the Celebrity /Citation rotors are different, I assume that the thickness is the issue. Also do you know if the bolt pattern on those rotors is 5 x 100, the same as the Fiero?

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All of these 5x100mm rotors and calipers we are talking about are essentially the "Grand Am" brake upgrade for the 84-87... This is nothing new.

84 Citation Rotor:


88 Celebrity Rotor (light duty with 5x100mm pattern)


88 Grand Am Rotor (5x100):


88 Celebrity Rotor (heavy duty with 5x115mm pattern)

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Looked at the specs for the Citation Rotors and they look like they would not bolt right on (no bearing hub) but provide the proper wheel spacing. The Grand AM rotors are entirely different than the Citation rotors but again the Fiero hub needs to be cut to fit these on.

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"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

[This message has been edited by Dennis LaGrua (edited 09-08-2019).]

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