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intercooler fluid for the 3.8sc whats everyone use? by ttt123
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Just curious what people are you using .. and liking for intercooler fluid for there 3.8sc swaps. Anyone have any special blends, brands, tricks that have used and suggest.

Any input?

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i am using 50/50 green coolant and distilled water. i think it works good. i plan on adding a temp gauge to the system this winter, i want to monitor the temp. was also thinking about adding fans to heat exchanger.
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Originally posted by vette7584:

i am using 50/50 green coolant and distilled water. i think it works good. i plan on adding a temp gauge to the system this winter, i want to monitor the temp. was also thinking about adding fans to heat exchanger.


The temp gauge is a great idea, I didn't think of that so think you! would be interesting to try different things and track the effects. Fans would be nice for city driving for me.
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x2 on the 50/50 Green Antifreeze and distilled water mix. I did not add a temperature gauge to the system but I do often monitor fluid temps with a digital infrared laser thermometer.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

x2 on the 50/50 Green Antifreeze and distilled water mix. I did not add a temperature gauge to the system but I do often monitor fluid temps with a digital infrared laser thermometer.



thanks for chiming in. I was expecting to see some wild concoctions and ideas from people but just plain ole coolant huh lol

anyone ever here of some validity to misting the cooler?

I've never ran a water to air cooler so I'm kind of just thinking out loud and seeing what others who have say about them

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Originally posted by ttt123:


thanks for chiming in. I was expecting to see some wild concoctions and ideas from people but just plain ole coolant huh lol

anyone ever here of some validity to misting the cooler?

I've never ran a water to air cooler so I'm kind of just thinking out loud and seeing what others who have say about them

Thanks guys

Not sure how much gain you would see by misting the heat exchanger.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Not sure how much gain you would see by misting the heat exchanger.




Ok. Ill stick to the basic triedand tested methods
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The 50/50 water/antifreeze mix will work, but is not optimal. The coolant for the heat exchanger should never reach the boiling point of water. So antifreeze is overkill. Plus, antifreeze reduces the heat capacity of the water. So you could use 75% water / 25% antifreeze, for better heat transfer.

That said, my preferred mixture is 1 teaspoon of powdered dishwasher detergent (for dishwasher machines) for each gallon of water... NOT dish soap that comes in a squeeze bottle. That stuff will foam up and make a huge mess. The dishwasher detergent reduces the surface tension of the water, which improves heat transfer. Also, the detergent keeps bacteria away.

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Antifreeze is a necessary evil to prevent the water from freezing, and thus expanding and rupturing the pipes in the winter. You don't use antifreeze because it makes for a better coolant.

Note that OP is in Michigan, not Florida.

I once put hand dishwashing soap in a dishwashing machine. Bubbles poured out onto the floor, and there were so many bubbles that the pump lost its prime; the pump inlet could only suck bubbles. Somehow my dad was able to bring home some magic chemical home from work that made the bubbles go away.

I think that spraying water on a heat exchanger's fins is a rather indirect way of cooling the air; on my Fiero I'm going to spray the water into the engine's intake ports.

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Originally posted by pmbrunelle: Note that OP is in Michigan, not Florida.

Good point. In that case, the 50/50 water antifreeze mix would be the more prudent choice.
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interesting guys. so what about the dishwashing detergent along with the 50/50 coolant? I think the fans as well would be a good idea for slower speeds or city driving. My wife and I cruise woodward a lot on Saturdays so speeds wouldn't be that fast for air flow.
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I never tried mixing chemicals like that, not sure if they're compatible.

An intercooler fan would be a good idea. It would also be a good idea to put a temperature switch on the intercooler, so the fan only runs when needed.

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Originally posted by Blacktree:

I never tried mixing chemicals like that, not sure if they're compatible.

An intercooler fan would be a good idea. It would also be a good idea to put a temperature switch on the intercooler, so the fan only runs when needed.



Good stuff guys. Push or pull for fans? What about oil cooler? Anyone feel its a worth the work benefit? On my porsche the gas also goes through the a/c system. Someone on the porrsche forum explained why but i don’t remember.

Reason im asking this stuff is im just thinking of all the small stuff that can be done for a horse here and a horse there i want to do. i e used to have a friend with a Dino shop when I was building Camaros and he went through his engine before he did all of the small stuff like underdrive pulley‘s coolers etc. etc. and he picked up like an extra 20 horse when it was all said and done and thats always stuck with me about freed up hp.

Sorry for the grammar I’m typing this one on my phone Lol

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As a general rule, puller fans are more efficient than pushers. That said, if a puller fan won't fit, then a pusher is better than nothing.
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