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Antennta Mast Broke Off. Solution? by Dennis LaGrua
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Tried to remove an old antenna mast. It was frozen in place and when turned with a wrench it easily broke off. Does anyone here know how to fix this problem without removing the entire assembly? Can the broken stud be removed?
Barring any easy solution I guess the way to remove that broken stud is to drill it and use an easy out.
UPDATE: Drilled hole through the broken stud. Inserted stud extractor. Still no movement with turning force. Don't want to twist too hard as extractors do break. Soaking in PB Blaster. We will see what tomorrow brings.
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Report this Post06-08-2019 09:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpadesluckSend a Private Message to SpadesluckEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I was going to suggest something similar to what you tried. If that did not make it budge chances are you will need to get to the back side of it. You know what that means!
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Report this Post06-08-2019 09:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Spadesluck:

I was going to suggest something similar to what you tried. If that did not make it budge chances are you will need to get to the back side of it. You know what that means!


The more that I examine the antenna mast, it becomes obvious that the threaded stud may have been welded or pressed in. I'll just make the hole larger, thread it and insert a piece of threaded rod. Now to find out what threads are on the antenna mast where it screws in. Always issues with these old cars!.

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The 85GT I just restored had this problem. The antenna mast is universal to most GM cars today. I got one from the local pick and pull that looked brand new. The mast base I had to buy a used one from the Fiero Store. I looked at trying to repair the broken base, but it didn't look promising. Keep in mind the threaded part cannot touch ground it is the center conductor of the coax.

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Report this Post06-08-2019 11:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
the "stud" isn't a stud but more like a bolt embedded in epoxy/plastic in the rest of the base.
If you finally turn the broken the plastic is ruined too.

Can it be fix to take the GM aerial again? not easy if you can and likely need it on a bench to work.

you could attach a wire to new hole then run the wire under the fender and windshield trim.
Use a small short screw to hold it. Coat joint w/ silicone/brake grease.

If you drill thru the "stud..." I think the Base goes around and under the broken "stud" so screw you use should not hit bottom.

I've been doing this for 10+ years so idiots don't have antennas to bend/break.

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There was a post from a guy who used a Bic pen cover and glued it into the hole. This is not an antennae. He bought a universal one and laid it down under the front compartment just forward of the windshield. DHGATE.com (Chinese Ebay) has electronic antennae that mount hidden most anywhere. Do search on car radio antennae
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Does anyone here know how to fix this problem without removing the entire assembly?


I had this same problem when I got my Formula. The easiest solution was to just swap the whole antenna assembly over from a wrecked Fiero. Turned out to be a very simple procedure... honestly!
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How about just make a smooth fender and hide an antenna in the fender since it would see you will need to pull it anyways?
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Originally posted by Spadesluck:

How about just make a smooth fender and hide an antenna in the fender since it would see you will need to pull it anyways?


That's just it though... the fender doesn't need to be removed. Keep in mind that these plastic fenders are very flexible. If I remember correctly, just the top few bolts need to be removed, and then the top of fender can simply be pulled out enough to gain access to the antenna assembly inside.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

That's just it though... the fender doesn't need to be removed. Keep in mind that these plastic fenders are very flexible. If I remember correctly, just the top few bolts need to be removed, and then the top of fender can simply be pulled out enough to gain access to the antenna assembly inside.



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I mounted my antenna under the fender and filled the hole. It looks cleaner and radio reception is fine. Easy mod.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

That's just it though... the fender doesn't need to be removed. Keep in mind that these plastic fenders are very flexible. If I remember correctly, just the top few bolts need to be removed, and then the top of fender can simply be pulled out enough to gain access to the antenna assembly inside.



Awesome, I did not know that. That's even more incentive to do it then.
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Again some great comments from the clique! . Yeah, it looks like the antenna assembly is probably coming out. IMO, the design of the antenna allows rain water to get in and sit around the stud rusting it and making it easy to break off when removing the mast. Its now remove the wheelhouse, free up space and pull the radio. Another couple hours of work but what else is new?

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I had this same problem when I got my Formula. The easiest solution was to just swap the whole antenna assembly over from a wrecked Fiero. Turned out to be a very simple procedure... honestly!



Always helpful advice. That is what is written in my comments section. Nothing less.
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For those who have not had to deal with a striped / damaged mast mount, I just put a little antisieze on my threads and all’s been good. Going on 9 years now with no issues and the radio reception is great.
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There was an old thread here from someone (Buddycraig? Topnotch? I don't remember anymore) where the author rebuilt an antenna base by drilling out the epoxy base material, and using a bolt or threaded rod as a new threaded base to screw the antenna onto. The cavity was then re-filled with epoxy to hold it secure. The hard part, though, is you have to solder or weld the antenna cable to the threaded rod.... And there was some special procedure involved he recommended you have to do to do this right. Silver solder, maybe.

I did like was recommended above; I replaced mine with one from the junkyard. Sadly, it took years of searching to find a good one. There are a LOT of broken or stripped ones out there! But replacement was easy thanks to the flexibility of the plastic fender. All is good now.
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