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Water temp sensor by Eltsyrk
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I recently purchased a water temp sensor off of summit racing for a 2.8 engine the sensor is located on top of my clynder head rear right but the sensor has 2 small plugs in it and I didn’t know if it will work
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This is the location of the 2.8 sensors. The temperature gauge sending unit has a round plastic head with a split in the side of it. The Coolant Temperature Sensor has an oval plastic head. Don't let a parts house convince you that you need to cut and splice in a new harness end. They're trying to sell you the wrong sensor. It commonly happens when someone buys the gauge sending unit that they provide the coolant temperature sensor and a new harness plug. The only sensor with a single wire is the cooling fan switch.

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ECT used by ECM w/ old style plug for Fiero V6 and many others hasn't been made for 20+ Years. If you find them they are very NOS parts.
Old connector was a big reason of engine problems.

New ones use a Metripak plug and much more weather and idiot proof because of its resistance to spilled coolant that's very conductive.
Dorman and others make pigtails to install new plugs. You should solder or otherwise make a very good connection and water proof the joints.

ACDelco 213928 ECT and others...

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I bought one of these last year for an 88 V6. I don't think it's NOS.
https://shop.advanceautopar...t+temperature+sensor
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I purchased this
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-213-928

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The link was blocked on my computer. Reason was suspicious activity.
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Report this Post01-10-2018 09:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for EltsyrkSend a Private Message to EltsyrkEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ok I’ll try to provide more info from what the site gives me
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The link was blocked on my computer. Reason was suspicious activity.


You need to opt out of VigLink.
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The part is 15326386 via acdelco
It says it fits the 1986 v6 fiero
Universal: No
Make: PONTIAC
Model: FIERO
Submodel: GT
Beginning Year: 1985
Ending Year: 1988
Engine Type: V6
Engine Size: 2.8L/173
Engine Family: GM V6
Application Notes: Engine Designation: -, Engine VIN: 9. ECM)(2 BLADE TERM)(3/8-18 THD)(INTERFACES W/ECM)(2-WAY MALE)(MATING CONN W/LEADS USE 88987993 USE TOGETHER WITH MATING CONNECTOR PT1798
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Originally posted by Eltsyrk:

The part is 15326386 via acdelco


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That is the part yes but what confused me was that the temp gauge sensor is what I thought was the coolant temp sensor so if this part is correct then I should be all good thank you for the help
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I don't know that I have VigLink. I was using Firefox as my browser. Anyway, I went to summit and entered the part number. The sensor you have is the coolant temperature sensor and isn't the one that screws into the trunk side head near the ignition coil.

I checked again and Summit doesn't list the correct sensor for the temperature gauge. It's usually readily ad your loxal chain auto store.
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Originally posted by Eltsyrk:

That is the part yes but what confused me was that the temp gauge sensor is what I thought was the coolant temp sensor so if this part is correct then I should be all good thank you for the help.


Do you suspect your ECU is being sent incorrect temp information?

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That sensor goes in the end of the engine, underneath the thermostat housing. It doesn't feed any information to your temperature gauge if that's what you're trying to do.
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I don't know that I have VigLink.


It's not a matter of you "having" VigLink. The Ogre knows 100x more about VigLink than me. Maybe he'll step in and explain it.
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ACDelco Number I posted above is a example of The New Type ECT and will require a New Plug for most Fiero. Only 87-88 Fiero w/ DIS Dukes have them installed at GM.
Example new plug

Dorman 2-Wire Coolant Temperature Sensor pn 85100
Sensor is none polarize and not connected to case so wiring doesn't matter.

 
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thank you guys for the help im currently in the process of removing the old wire harness and adding the needed connectors and swaping the ecm connectors any tips on that? also any break in tips/tricks i dont know if i should turn the engine over with no tune since i will be adding a twin throttle body (home made) cam rockers and possible headers or power logs also home made. and finally i need lifters still for my engine and i was wondering where to get some i have a 260h cam and i was searching for some on summit racing but i didnt know which to get since i have the 2nd gen block with a camaro lower intake manifold and fiero heads.

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I have never seen a Fiero harness with anything but the metripack CTS (Coolant Temperature Sensor). Note this is also sometimes called the ECT. This is the sensor that the computer uses to tell the temperature of the engine. The wire will be Black and Yellow. Your Fiero should already have the correct connector on it for the CTS.

If the two wires you are looking at are Dk. Green and Dk. Green/Yellow, then what you are looking at it the Temp Gauge/Temp Light sender. That never uses a plug like shown and will not function with a CTS sender spliced onto it's wires. You need to purchase the correct sender for the gauge and use the original type sender.

There is also a Coolant Fan switch on the engine, but that is a one wire connector.

There is also a Cold Start Temperature Switch on the engine, but that is also a different connector and different colors.
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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

I have never seen a Fiero harness with anything but the metripack CTS (Coolant Temperature Sensor). Note this is also sometimes called the ECT. This is the sensor that the computer uses to tell the temperature of the engine. The wire will be Black and Yellow. Your Fiero should already have the correct connector on it for the CTS.

If the two wires you are looking at are Dk. Green and Dk. Green/Yellow, then what you are looking at it the Temp Gauge/Temp Light sender. That never uses a plug like shown and will not function with a CTS sender spliced onto it's wires. You need to purchase the correct sender for the gauge and use the original type sender.

There is also a Coolant Fan switch on the engine, but that is a one wire connector.

There is also a Cold Start Temperature Switch on the engine, but that is also a different connector and different colors.


Tim I have been trying to reach you by email, phone, and pm. I saw you posted here so just tried to call you but no answer. Is everything ok?

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