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Fuel Rail Block Seal? by Spadesluck
Started on: 11-14-2017 12:43 PM
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Report this Post11-14-2017 12:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpadesluckSend a Private Message to SpadesluckEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Has anyone found a good replacement seal? I searched and did not come up with much. I know the fiero store has one but folks have said that it is not a good piece. I have also read someone cutting the rubber out of the original seal and replacing the o-rings. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Report this Post02-12-2018 11:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SpadesluckSend a Private Message to SpadesluckEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Dare I bump this? I can assume by the lack of respones noone really has an answer. I will probably go with the Fiero Store piece.
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Report this Post02-12-2018 01:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierofoolEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Go to the F-Body forums and ask what they use kn the 3.4's and their source. They use the same seal. Just pretend you own a 93-95 Camaro or Firebird.🤐
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Report this Post02-12-2018 07:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpadesluckSend a Private Message to SpadesluckEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Would not be pretending to much as I own a 98 Camaro. Ha
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*edit*

NEVERMIND

I didn't read the entire post.

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Report this Post02-17-2018 11:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jmbishopSend a Private Message to jmbishopEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
What seal are you looking for? If it's just flat rubber or cork, a new one can be laser cut easily.

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What seal are you looking for? If it's just flat rubber or cork, a new one can be laser cut easily.



This seal Here
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Report this Post10-28-2018 11:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SpadesluckSend a Private Message to SpadesluckEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Just a follow up to what I did. Instead of purchasing a $37 part from the Fiero Store I matched the rubber on the old seal to new rubber 0-rings. I just used o-rings in place of the old seal and bolted it down. I have run the car to operating temp multiple times and driven it around the block a few times with no leaks. Will this work long term, we shall see. I just wanted to post up my experiences thus far.
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Originally posted by Spadesluck:

Just a follow up to what I did. Instead of purchasing a $37 part from the Fiero Store I matched the rubber on the old seal to new rubber 0-rings. I just used o-rings in place of the old seal and bolted it down. I have run the car to operating temp multiple times and driven it around the block a few times with no leaks. Will this work long term, we shall see. I just wanted to post up my experiences thus far.


As long as the O rings were Viton not Buna-N. The black Buna-N O rings are not as good under pressure.

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Report this Post10-29-2018 12:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpadesluckSend a Private Message to SpadesluckEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I used Viton rings. Good point though. I am just suprised the lack of talk about this, no one makes this seal except the Fiero Store. When I took mine apart the seal was all cracked up. I can only imagine how many owners are driving around with a potential gas leak.
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Originally posted by Spadesluck:

I used Viton rings. Good point though. I am just surprised the lack of talk about this, no one makes this seal except the Fiero Store. When I took mine apart the seal was all cracked up. I can only imagine how many owners are driving around with a potential gas leak.


IMO, the fuel block seals on the Fiero were not designed for today's E10 gasoline's but regardless they are 30+ years old. I have removed a few of those fuel blocks and the seals were nearly disintegrated. Your technique is the low budget approach but if it works all the better. Word to the wise X 2 to Fiero owners; if you own a V6 Fiero and wish to avoid a fire, replace that fuel block seal now.

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Originally posted by Spadesluck:
I know the fiero store has one but folks have said that it is not a good piece.


The only complaint we are aware of was from someone who was unhappy with the appearance of the part. If memory serves, there was a little residual rubber on the aluminum, which is common with this kind of manufacturing. We have not received any complaints about the fit or function of the part. While there are likely other options, ours is the easiest, fastest, and closest to OEM.
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Report this Post10-30-2018 08:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpadesluckSend a Private Message to SpadesluckEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by FieroStore:


The only complaint we are aware of was from someone who was unhappy with the appearance of the part. If memory serves, there was a little residual rubber on the aluminum, which is common with this kind of manufacturing. We have not received any complaints about the fit or function of the part. While there are likely other options, ours is the easiest, fastest, and closest to OEM.


I appreciate the feedback for that. I have bought plenty of parts from you guys over the last couple years and I do not have any complaints. However, I wanted to try this solution out to see if it works.
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Report this Post07-20-2019 03:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SpadesluckSend a Private Message to SpadesluckEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Just wanted to bring this back up and say that after driving the car for over 4k miles last month my o-ring solution to the fuel block seal is working as intended.
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Originally posted by Spadesluck:

I am just suprised the lack of talk about this,
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I think, at least initially, maybe some people didn't understand the question. "Fuel rail? Touching the block?" They weren't thinking of the block where the lines connect. At least I wasn't until I saw the diagram. And then I was like... DOH!
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Report this Post07-20-2019 06:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpadesluckSend a Private Message to SpadesluckEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
LOL, its all good Raydar. Just as a reference this is the link to the Fiero Store piece V6 Fuel Rail To Block Seal

Maybe if I would have worded it fuel rail to block it might have made more sense. Anyways, all I did was match up the o-rings to the metal piece and tightened it all down. Like I said no issues to this point. Not downing the Fiero Stores piece by any means. To each their own.
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