I will be replacing all of the bushings on my 85GT. I have done a lot of reading, but I have not found control arm bushings with a grease filling. I am considering polyurethane, but the grease must wash off at some time, and when it does I don't want to disassemble control arms to grease them. I am hoping that there is an alternative that is firm like the poly, but has a grease fitting. I do not have the means to machine my own bushings.
You can use poly , just drill and tap holes that you can thread grease fittings in to. Not the easiest thing to do on stock control arms but it only takes time and patience and common hand tools. A long time ago I bought a set of delrin aluminum bushings (Del-A-Lum trade name, look them up on Summit web site) from West Coast Fiero .These were greasable with fittings and designed to fit the stock 84-87 front control arms. I do not see them listed on his website any more but maybe Chris West might give the part #s out ? Or maybe he could get you some never hurts to ask.
You can use poly , just drill and tap holes that you can thread grease fittings in to. Not the easiest thing to do on stock control arms but it only takes time and patience and common hand tools.
I am sure that I can drill through the old bushing walls and thread in a grease fitting; likewise I could drill through the bushing, but lining the two holes up may be impossible. Can a groove be Dremeled in the outer surface of the bushing to allow for some misalignment of the holes and provide a path for the grease to follow?
Can a groove be Dremeled in the outer surface of the bushing to allow for some misalignment of the holes and provide a path for the grease to follow?
This is a totally different situation, but I dremeled out a channel for lithium grease to follow on the inside of these poly sway bar bushings for my Subie when I added the zerk fittings. Worked out really well... no squawking!
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When I did it, I drilled the holes whith the bushing in place. Then thread the hole and it lines up. Just take it apart to clean the metal out of it and put the grease fitting on after you push the bushing back in. You want the poly to rotate with the arm and the grease to go between the poly and the centre metal bushing and that centre bushing needs to be cranked down tight with the mounting bolt so it will never move. The grease fitting also helps the poly to stay in synch with the arm as well. As Patrick did above, you can make a groove on the inside of the poly so the grease travels around the inner metal bushing.
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... I dremeled out a channel for lithium grease to follow on the inside of these poly sway bar bushings for my Subie when I added the zerk fittings. Worked out really well... no squawking!
It looks like this bushing didn't do so well, but you say it did; I don't understand.
It is a sway bar bushing. They are split so they can be pulled apart to go around the bar and then the housing goes over the poly and bolts it all tight to the frame.
I don't understand why you feel my bushing "didn't do so well". and (from WFTB) It is a sway bar bushing. They are split so they can be pulled apart to go around the bar
Okay, now I get it. I thought the split in the bushing was the result of bushing failure, and now I see that you couldn't install the bushing unless it had such a split feature.
So, if I understand it correctly, you started with a bushing that already had the radial grooves (for grease retention) on the inside bore, and added a drilled hole for the Zerk fitting and a groove on the inside bore to allow grease to flow across those radial grooves. Have I understood your bushing modification correctly? Is so, what did you use to make the groove on the inner bore.
Assuming that I have understood the modifications you made correctly, this is exactly what I would like to do to my control arm bushings. I want the poly bushing, but I don't want to remove bushings in the future to grease them. Additionally, do you know of anyone who has made the same modifications to a control arm bushing; they bear a higher load?
I know for certain that someone out there makes them as I have a pair with the grease zircs on them. I might have got them from Herb Adams when I bought his sway bars. They are the poly inserts and steel clamps.
A lot of people have modded control arm bushings in this way. I can't point you to a thread just on memory, but it does not lessen the strength of the bushing at all. Ends the squeek, easy to grease and helps them last longer.
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One more question, the bushing in the image above has radial grooves to retain the grease (which I Prefer), but the Prothane bushings appear to have axial or side to side grooves (which I do not prefer). Who makes the bushings with the radial grooves like the one in the image above.
...what did you use to make the groove on the inner bore.
A very small dremel-type grinding disk was used to make the large center channel (that lines up with the drilled hole in the bushing which leads to the Zerk fitting).
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Originally posted by RB_Fiero:
So, if I understand it correctly, you started with a bushing that already had the radial grooves (for grease retention) on the inside bore, and added a drilled hole for the Zerk fitting and a groove on the inside bore to allow grease to flow across those radial grooves. Have I understood your bushing modification correctly?
Two very narrow channels (made with a hacksaw blade) that go side to side were also added to help disburse the grease from the dremeled center channel.
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Originally posted by RB_Fiero:
I want the poly bushing, but I don't want to remove bushings in the future to grease them.
Exactly. I installed front poly sway bar bushings in my Formula (without custom Zerk fittings), and was ticked off when they began squawking two years later. That's what inspired me to make these modifications on the bushings for my Subie.
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Originally posted by RB_Fiero:
One more question, the bushing in the image above has radial grooves to retain the grease (which I Prefer), but the Prothane bushings appear to have axial or side to side grooves (which I do not prefer). Who makes the bushings with the radial grooves like the one in the image above.
Those areProthane bushings that I used.
Here they are before I made the required "split" to each bushing.
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