Does anyone have a part number for this quarter turn socket? I have 3 with broken tabs in Manda's 88 GT. GM is fairly good at offering sockets, usually a 4 digit part number like "P110" and the list goes on.
I've tried like heck searching, and found Chinese general replacement types, but anticipate the "ears" that lock in place with a twist, to be the wrong size. If nobody knows, I will give those a try. I do have "good" sockets in my parts car, but at 30 years old, I basically expect them to break upon install, or very soon after. So new is preferred.
I have just ordered LED versions of these size 70 bulbs with 3 diodes each, I'm hoping they'll be the finishing touches for the interior LED conversions on all of my cars, but these sockets are the only obstacle in my way.
These are the same bulbs that blacktop racing offers. Basically a chip with a diode on the front, back, and one facing up on top
That looks like a spade terminal my 70 bulbs look like a push twist and turn to install/remove.. iirc, but I'd have to look again.. on mine (indy) the ashtray bulbs seem smaller than the shifter bulb (automatic) that is smaller than a standard dash 194 bulb..
My Fiero manual dealer 3 ring binder didn't have a part # for the socket listed.. it is a 1984 manual.. my 1987 manual bound reprint (helm) didn't either..
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Thank you for checking. The bulb type is t5, just like a 194 dash bulb. But the size is 70. At least that is what searches have turned up. I have yet to find a common pigtail replacement, though I did find what I believe was a NOS acdelco part on eBay. The part number was obsolete and the picture quality sucked as it was still in the plastic bag, but it sure looked correct, best I could tell. The search continues!
Thank you for checking. The bulb type is t5, just like a 194 dash bulb. But the size is 70. At least that is what searches have turned up. I have yet to find a common pigtail replacement, though I did find what I believe was a NOS acdelco part on eBay. The part number was obsolete and the picture quality sucked as it was still in the plastic bag, but it sure looked correct, best I could tell. The search continues!
Found a photo of the 70
I wonder how tall those led type are.. compared to the tiny 70 bulbs. at the ashtray.. I'd think the wedge end of the 70 would be much narrower than the standard 194 bulb.. have not been brave enough to pull my 70's to compare.. but my console top is off, and the bulb is much smaller than a standard 194
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Originally posted by viperine: Thank you for checking. The bulb type is t5, just like a 194 dash bulb. But the size is 70. At least that is what searches have turned up. I have yet to find a common pigtail replacement, though I did find what I believe was a NOS acdelco part on eBay. The part number was obsolete and the picture quality sucked as it was still in the plastic bag, but it sure looked correct, best I could tell. The search continues!
Don't know where you get Bulb data but has problems... 70 is not = 194 in any way. 70 bulb is not T5.
Correct standard data for entire industry: 70 is T1 3/4 194 and 168 are T3 1/4 T5 is 906 and many other #'s and while fits many sockets for T3 1/4 do not replace them w/ T5. Bigger often has heat problem because not enough air gap for other parts etc.
Note LED often have problems w/ Fiero type Dimmer circuit. Some times they work but most hate any dimmer make for normal bulbs. Many 120vac units hate Home dimmers. Even when says dimable still hate motion and other light switches.
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Thank you for clearing that up. Searches have all lumped LED bulbs into the t5 category and it didn't seem right to me.
I have bought led home light bulbs that claim to be dimmable, with rather sorry results.
However, all of the LED's I have installed in two Fieros have turned out to function even better than standard issue bulbs, except that I feel the new 3rd brake light is too bright (I mistakenly bought one with a projector end and it shines directly at the red fiero lens). Perhaps I have just been lucky. I am hoping that the ashtrays will illuminate better so I can see what is in them (usually various screws) at night. I've enlarged the holes in the metal ashtrays themselves but was still sorely disappointed with the standard 70 bulb.
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Originally posted by theogre: Don't know where you get Bulb data but has problems... 70 is not = 194 in any way. 70 bulb is not T5.
Correct standard data for entire industry: 70 is T1 3/4 194 and 168 are T3 1/4 T5 is 906 and many other #'s and while fits many sockets for T3 1/4 do not replace them w/ T5. Bigger often has heat problem because not enough air gap for other parts etc.
Note LED often have problems w/ Fiero type Dimmer circuit. Some times they work but most hate any dimmer make for normal bulbs. Many 120vac units hate Home dimmers. Even when says dimable still hate motion and other light switches.
Because Most LED vendor have no clue and don't care. Aftermarket LED is a problem in most cars not made to use them but pushing LED BS is a huge money maker and gets worse every year. Even Sylvania now have LEDs and right on the front of the package... they hind behind "For Off Road Use Only" but sold thru AZ etc for use on the road.
I get all of my bulbs from West coast eBay vendors. So far, all have done well for me. The 70 tiny bulbs came directly from china, the markup on these in the states is astronomical. I actually purchased 100 of these. Slow boat was worthwhile. I tend to buy the rest of the bulbs in 20 and 50 lots, and I take the time to source one vendor who has all I want in one transaction. It just takes a little time. The only exception was LED reverse light bulbs. Poor experience with them as for fitment. I picked those up as a set of 6 from some vendor in NY.
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What bulbs have you purchased that worked well other than BTR's bulbs? Any help would be appreciated.
I get all of my bulbs from West coast eBay vendors. So far, all have done well for me. The 70 tiny bulbs came directly from china, the markup on these in the states is astronomical. I actually purchased 100 of these. Slow boat was worthwhile.
I will, if you like. Fair warning though, the ashtray holes that allow light to shine through, should be enlarged. Secondly, these bulbs are really bright, but disappointed me when used in the HVAC backlighting socket. Not as effective, in my opinion.
