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WIRES, WIRES, more CUT WIRES ! by Lou6t4gto
Started on: 11-11-2016 04:45 PM
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Report this Post11-11-2016 04:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
1986 GT. Drivers Side headlight Hole . What are the 6 cut wires "supposed" to go to ??? THANKS
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Report this Post11-11-2016 06:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Lou, you really need to invest in a couple of Factory Service Manuals!
Your life would b much easier if you did.
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Report this Post11-11-2016 07:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
ya know, I actually Do have one ! never thought to look. (Old Age setting in)CRS . it hasn't done much for me in the past in the way of Wiring. I'll have to take a look, I know I'll need a Magnifying Glass to see any of it. Thanks for Reminding me. I Know there's something MISSING there, but don't know What.
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Report this Post11-11-2016 07:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageSend a Private Message to phonedawgzEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Those wire nuts are troubles waiting to happen.

Those splices need to be soldered and covered with shrink tube.

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Report this Post11-11-2016 08:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cvxjetSend a Private Message to cvxjetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have some kind of relay hooked to those wires...May be the headlight relay....
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I have checked in the only manual I have accessible at the moment- 88....It shows no relay for the headlights and no relay for the fan- I know they both have them but maybe the info is classified!
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Report this Post11-11-2016 08:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Lou6t4gto:

1986 GT. Drivers Side headlight Hole


 
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Originally posted by cvxjet:

I have checked in the only manual I have accessible at the moment- 88....It shows no relay for the headlights


Looking at headlight wiring for an '86 in a '88 manual is about as useless as tits on a board.

The 2nd generation ('87-'88) headlight wiring (for the motors) is quite different than the earlier years.

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Report this Post11-11-2016 09:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
the twisted wires and caps is also part of someone else's mess. That should be the least of the wiring problems I've found on this.
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Report this Post11-11-2016 11:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for viperineSend a Private Message to viperineEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Sadly, a common sight to see. Appears to be the wires to the relay and the separate connector that controls the closing function of the motor (blue wire). Can be fixed, but I hope you instead opt to swap in a junkyard harness that is uncut. This is what it did, and though a little bit of work, worth saving the harness. I'm implying you don't ruin a perfect junkyard harness to salvage this one. IF you really need it, I do think I have my old mangled harness (previous owner tried rigging it to epic fail) and may be able to provide sections you need.
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Originally posted by viperine:

Can be fixed, but I hope you instead opt to swap in a junkyard harness that is uncut.


Better yet, grab a 2nd generation harness and swap over to the better '87-'88 headlight motors.
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Report this Post11-12-2016 01:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I "may" install Totally Different Lights. I don't mind cutting hood/ fenders, and filling the light covers. Entire car is custom (inside and out). the only thing remaining is the front "beak", so everything is subject to change. Thanks
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Originally posted by phonedawgz:
Those wire nuts are troubles waiting to happen.
Those splices need to be soldered and covered with shrink tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L61LJcz7H6g
Do Not follow directions to mash the wires together.
Pull for testing is BS for this and others. Cold/weak joints can pass that and still be bad.
Gun used, like many other on YT, are too small to heat the area.
Normal heat tube is bad too. Won't seal out water etc. "Weather proof" is better but bad joints made here will cause problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoD2aUvnQXg
I don't recommend some joints here but look at joints after solder. He got the wire hot to flow solder IN the wire and joint. You need this for electrical/mechanic reasons but to keep water etc out of joint itself.
Bigger joints is use bigger gun/iron too. Big joint are "Weller" type gun w/ 100-140w that can quickly heat the area.

ETA--> He should crimp the joints then solder when using butt joints etc. Crimping makes heating easier.
Side note: Many crimp end are better and safer with solder because hand crimping can't generate enough pressure w/ wire size >22awg. Is why you see crimp end melt insulation etc or cause fires when used on HL, Rad Fan, and other devices eating power.

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Report this Post11-13-2016 01:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for motoracer838Send a Private Message to motoracer838Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Lou6t4gto:

1986 GT. Drivers Side headlight Hole . What are the 6 cut wires "supposed" to go to ??? THANKS


I look at this pic and just shake my head and wonder, why do some people think they can work on things???

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Report this Post11-13-2016 02:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
and then they wonder Why they see a Sign on the wall that states " Labor rates DOUBLE if you Worked On It First" . LOL. Sometimes I wish I could apply that !
( but then, double nothing is still nothing)

that's just 1 of the Many gangs of wires that were cut off and spliced, surprised they are not "Glued" together. LOL
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Originally posted by Patrick:
...as useless as tits on a boar.



FTFY. "Boar" as in male pig.
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Originally posted by Monkeyman:

FTFY. "Boar" as in male pig.


No need to be "fixed". Board or boar can be used.

I purposely didn't use "boar" as a lot of people are unfamiliar with the term.

I could've used the word Boer... and ticked off all those of Dutch ancestry in South Africa.

 
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Looking at headlight wiring for an '86 in a '88 manual is about as useless as tits on a board.

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