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Whats the proper way to check for rust under the trunk liner? by bigjoe25
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I went to look at a fiero and wanted to do the normal trunk rust check by pulling back the trunk liner. It seemed to never been moved and was glued on there good. The guy went nuts and said he didn't want it peeled back so I never did get to look.

So whats the proper way to peel back the trunk liner to check for rust? Maybe next time I won't look like a jackass not knowing what I'm doing and wrecking some guys trunk liner in the process.
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Report this Post03-12-2016 06:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MonkeymanSend a Private Message to MonkeymanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Out of 6 Fieros, I've never had one glued in place. They just sit there. The top edge is sort of captured by the trunk seal but that's it. If it's stuck, I'd guess it's due to moisture. You can look up from underneath. Not quite the same view but close. You can also try feeling around and pushing on the carpet to feel or hear for any rust. Not always the most reliable as the trunk carpet is fairly thick but it's a start.
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Originally posted by bigjoe25:

I went to look at a fiero and wanted to do the normal trunk rust check by pulling back the trunk liner. It seemed to never been moved and was glued on there good. The guy went nuts and said he didn't want it peeled back so I never did get to look.

So whats the proper way to peel back the trunk liner to check for rust? Maybe next time I won't look like a jackass not knowing what I'm doing and wrecking some guys trunk liner in the process.


That "line" right there should make you pass.

I can guarantee you it's rotted!
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Lay on your back & look up with a good flashlight. You can see the whole horizontal underside area that typically deteriorates first.
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You did it the right way, they're not glued in like that from the factory. Only the very bottom middle of the trunk is stuck to the frame, the rest just floats and conforms to the shape of the trunk. Sounds like he glued it in place so people couldn't see the trunk corner condition. Rust in this area is a well-known thing when looking at these cars now, he probably did a little research and found this is the first thing informed buyers look for.

Don't end up with THIS:



It's a ***** to fix.

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Report this Post03-12-2016 10:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for bigjoe25Send a Private Message to bigjoe25Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the replys. I'm in the market for a new fiero and don't want to deal with rust. The guy may of glued it I'm not sure, either way I did pass on that car.

I'll try all the methods to make sure I'm not dealing with swiss cheese.
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Though it isn't a promise of a perfect trunk, you could simply press firmly all over the trunk and blindly feel for rust with the carpet in place. A crunching noise/feel would be a dead giveaway to rust issues here. Not feeling/hearing anything at all wouldn't matter, but a definite "no" can be determined, at least. :shrug:
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If I remember, you should be able to see the corners and bottom of the trunk compartment from underneath. My guess is he may have stuck some metal over holes, and glued the carpet down. In the old days when floors rusted out, it was common to stick and old licence plate under the carpet.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

If I remember, you should be able to see the corners and bottom of the trunk compartment from underneath. My guess is he may have stuck some metal over holes, and glued the carpet down. In the old days when floors rusted out, it was common to stick and old licence plate under the carpet.


LOL!

My buddy had a '67 GTO years ago. He used cardboard and tar in the trunk.
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Originally posted by bigjoe25:
I went to look at a fiero and wanted to do the normal trunk rust check by pulling back the trunk liner. It seemed to never been moved and was glued on there good. The guy went nuts and said he didn't want it peeled back so I never did get to look.


Trunk carpets on Fieros were never glued in place. The dealer that you went to is most likely a scoundrel.
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Report this Post11-12-2020 09:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I posted this in another thread, but it's worth posting here, too.

Pull back the trunk carpet on both sides of the trunk. The "short" sides. Look between the top, where the rubber seal is, and the little shelf that is on each side.
The cleaner that "side wall" is, the better. Look out for big holes and/or metal just rotted away.
And no... the carpet is not normally glued. I've never seen a car where it was.





Rust can appear in other places, but if it's anywhere, it will usually be in one of these places. Either side. No real rhyme or reason as to left or right.

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Originally posted by Raydar:

I posted this in another thread, but it's worth posting here, too.

Pull back the trunk carpet on both sides of the trunk. The "short" sides. Look between the top, where the rubber seal is, and the little shelf that is on each side.
The cleaner that "side wall" is, the better. Look out for big holes and/or metal just rotted away.
And no... the carpet is not normally glued. I've never seen a car where it was.





Rust can appear in other places, but if it's anywhere, it will usually be in one of these places. Either side. No real rhyme or reason as to left or right.


What kind of car is that..... ........................


I have not seen a Fiero Trunk that clean here in MN in 20 years.... Put it in a museum...
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Originally posted by DimeMachine:

What kind of car is that..... ........................

I have not seen a Fiero Trunk that clean here in MN in 20 years.... Put it in a museum...


That one was sold years ago, but I have two others that look just like it.
Gotta love living in the south. (Although the trade-off is that you have to put up with gnats, grits, and rattlesnakes. )

All kidding aside, I parted out a wrecked Formula that came from Tennessee. Not a spot of rust on it anywhere, but everything was covered in a layer of dust. (The previous owner had lived on a dirt road.) I found dust in places that I didn't even know were places.



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