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Better power door lock solenoids? by Mickey_Moose
Started on: 10-23-2015 03:34 PM
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Report this Post10-23-2015 03:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mickey_MooseSend a Private Message to Mickey_MooseEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Anyone found something that works far better then the stock ones?

...or maybe my stock ones are just 'old'...

Edit to add, cause I am sure someone will say it - YES I have taken the latch assembly out of the door and cleaned it (and all other associated door lock parts) - the assembly was cleaned in a ultrasonic bath for several hours and not a spec of dirt remained on them. They still do not want to lock all the time.

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Report this Post10-23-2015 04:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TopNotchClick Here to visit TopNotch's HomePageSend a Private Message to TopNotchEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ordinary, cheap universal door lock actuators, such as in this Ebay listing are much more powerful than stock actuators, and will work even on old un-lubricated Fiero doors.
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Report this Post10-24-2015 07:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
You can buy aftermarket solenoids for any amount of pull you want measured in pounds it can pull. You might be able to use other GMs like Cadillac that would be stronger/better and fit exactly the same. Magnets in them get weaker with age.
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Report this Post10-24-2015 08:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mmeyer86gt/gtpSend a Private Message to mmeyer86gt/gtpEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
anyone know part number / what year make and model caddy to get them out of/?
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Report this Post10-27-2015 11:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Im just guessing any GMs from same time period are likely same mounting set up. You might have to change a wiring connector, so cut off the wire so you can splice if you have to. ie/ I used to have to replace door and trunk locks on wrecked cars or repossessed cars. All GM door and trunk locks were the same on all brands from like 1960s thru at least 90s in most cases, only the links varied. Only differences on the lock itself I usually saw was some were black and some were chrome. (either spray paint one or strip it) Just take your solenoid, or a picture of it with you to the yard and start digging thru Cads, Buicks, Olds, etc.
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Report this Post10-27-2015 11:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for imacflierSend a Private Message to imacflierEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
When Ebay locks are less than $4.00 shipped from North Carolina ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/Uni...6XlESxmGU2qA&vxp=mtr )

....you must be in a terrible hurry to justify the time and aggravation of a J/Y walk!
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Report this Post10-27-2015 11:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierobsessedSend a Private Message to FierobsessedEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I've found that the Fiero door lock actuators are typically well and strong enough to do the job. The latch mechanism's lock rocker is usually not too stiff for the motor. A good grease goes a long way here though if there is an issue. There is one majorly overlooked reason that Fiero door locks don't work, or it takes a bunch of button presses to actuate... and its right here:


This lever turns back and forth semi freely when you actuate your locks, but the little clip on the back of the lock cylinder puts spring tension on the lever, pushing it against the back of the stationary bit of the lock cylinder, there is a lot of friction there. If you remove this lever, and put a little bit of grease between it and the lock cylinder and reasseble, you'll find it makes a huge difference.
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Report this Post10-28-2015 04:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sardonyx247Click Here to visit sardonyx247's HomePageSend a Private Message to sardonyx247Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
WD-40 in the right places always make them work great for me, get the nozzle and point it up in the lock mechanism, works great every time.
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Report this Post10-28-2015 10:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I wont buy universal solenoids without them stateing the pnds of pull. You can get them from 5 pnds to 80 pnds. I used a lot of them in custom work for doors, hoods, trunks especially when removing outside handles and locks.
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Report this Post10-28-2015 01:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mickey_MooseSend a Private Message to Mickey_MooseEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Fierobsessed:

I've found that the Fiero door lock actuators are typically well and strong enough to do the job. The latch mechanism's lock rocker is usually not too stiff for the motor. A good grease goes a long way here though if there is an issue. There is one majorly overlooked reason that Fiero door locks don't work, or it takes a bunch of button presses to actuate... and its right here:


This lever turns back and forth semi freely when you actuate your locks, but the little clip on the back of the lock cylinder puts spring tension on the lever, pushing it against the back of the stationary bit of the lock cylinder, there is a lot of friction there. If you remove this lever, and put a little bit of grease between it and the lock cylinder and reasseble, you'll find it makes a huge difference.


Thanks will check/try that as well (I am sure I cleaned the area, but not sure if I added grease). Also ordered a couple of the actuators - hard to beat $7.50 shipped for a pair.
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