Ok got motor mounted to trans and everything in cradle now . But my 4 speed shifter cables run right into 3800sc exhaust crossover pipe. I remember reading something about how to fix this but cant find it now. Do i move the one i have or make something esle or does someone make or sell this bracket already? Any input would be great
Scott, can you please post how you are going to remedy this. I have seen people weld and modify the existing bracket, some say Rodney's replacement bracket works as a modded bracket with no real mod, and then there's always modding the exhaust crossover pipe, which some people prefer. I'm not up to that yet but I can't weld so I am either gonna go for Rodney's bracket (if that really moves the cables enough to avoid the exhaust crossover pipe), or ask FIEROFLYER to mod my crossover pipe when he makes my swap harness.
If there is anyone here in the states that mods the bracket or exhaust crossover pipe PLEASE let me know. Thank you! Louis
------------------ ===Always trying to find time to work on cars=== Louis Duet Baldwin, Long Island, NY ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Blue" <= '85 Fiero GT Stock V6---Stock everything. Trying to keep it 'mostly' that way. But I just got the 3800sc to swap into it! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Boo" <= '81 Delorean DMC-12 VIN #5835 Stock PRV engine Peugot 604 Intake manifold Exhaust headers Anti-3rd brake light
[This message has been edited by Lou and Blue (edited 02-23-2015).]
Here's what I did on mine. I used Rodney's bracket to shift the cables to the side so they'd clear the crossover pipe. I was able to easily reach all gears with the cables like this but don't have any road miles on the car yet to test its longevity.
So it's really as easy as buying Rodney's bracket and installing it using the same bolt holes as the stock bracket? That's it? Maybe Rodney can chime in?
------------------ ===Always trying to find time to work on cars=== Louis Duet Baldwin, Long Island, NY ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Blue" <= '85 Fiero GT Stock V6---Stock everything. Trying to keep it 'mostly' that way. But I just got the 3800sc to swap into it! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Boo" <= '81 Delorean DMC-12 VIN #5835 Stock PRV engine Peugot 604 Intake manifold Exhaust headers Anti-3rd brake light
Yea im goin to do what jfrost has. But im goin to use the same bracket off my other trans and cut the bottom off so it will be just like rodneys bracket but just free.
Yea im goin to do what jfrost has. But im goin to use the same bracket off my other trans and cut the bottom off so it will be just like rodneys bracket but just free.
I'd advise against that. The stock bracket is known to be weak and crack, as mine did. The different angle and added stresses will likely break the bracket.
So it's really as easy as buying Rodney's bracket and installing it using the same bolt holes as the stock bracket? That's it? Maybe Rodney can chime in?
Potentially its that easy. Like I mentioned, I haven't actually driven around with this setup yet due to unrelated issues with my swap, so it needs to be "stress-tested" still.
well I think if they have made 30 years without bending or showing any signs of stress they should be alright plus I plan cutting a flat piece steel and reinforcing the new top plate with it under that and above old. so the load will be more even. plus I really don't think there that much stress or great force cable form shifter cables those ears just hold the outter sleeve in place so the cable can slide back and forth inside just like shift/brake cables on a bicycle would. were not taling about stress or force from torque or anything like that. so I think it will just fine. but hay were open to are own ideas and views. we all do stuff different. jforst I do enjoy reading your build.
Well, it'll cost me $60 plus shipping from Canada for the modded exhaust crossover pipe, so $35 plus USA shipping sounds nice. Please post results after you have street driven your cars! I can't even do any driveway work till late march (too crazy cold outside and I have no garage-been rebuilding the 3800sc out in my back boathouse that has a kerosene heater which works fairly well.)
------------------ ===Always trying to find time to work on cars=== Louis Duet Baldwin, Long Island, NY ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Blue" <= '85 Fiero GT Stock V6---Stock everything. Trying to keep it 'mostly' that way. But I just got the 3800sc to swap into it! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Boo" <= '81 Delorean DMC-12 VIN #5835 Stock PRV engine Peugot 604 Intake manifold Exhaust headers Anti-3rd brake light
[This message has been edited by Lou and Blue (edited 02-23-2015).]
I did mine like in the picture, but I mad a "stand" for the left side cable attachment so the cable comes out straighter, and then for the other cable I angled it towards the lever. I really need to get the RD bracket and re-do it though.
I did mine like in the picture, but I mad a "stand" for the left side cable attachment so the cable comes out straighter, and then for the other cable I angled it towards the lever. I really need to get the RD bracket and re-do it though.
Any pictures of your setup? I'm curious to see how it looks in case I need to adjust my setup once I've roadtested it.
well today I installed the cradle with the newer trans and poly cradle with the fresh painted two toned black and silver 3800sc. now its just hooking up fuel lines and coolant hoses. and shifter bracket. it wasn't to bad. went pretty well. about 4 hours. cars back on its own wheels now.
Jaybug56, PM sent asking for more info. Thanks Louis
------------------ ===Always trying to find time to work on cars=== Louis Duet Baldwin, Long Island, NY ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Blue" <= '85 Fiero GT Stock V6---Stock everything. Trying to keep it 'mostly' that way. But I just got the 3800sc to swap into it! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Boo" <= '81 Delorean DMC-12 VIN #5835 Stock PRV engine Peugot 604 Intake manifold Exhaust headers Anti-3rd brake light
Good to know. I remember discussing the options first time we met up 2 years ago, guess you beat me to it lol.
Seems to be the most stable mod in my 3800sc swap I have had to tow my car home 3 or 4 times in the past 2 years. Let's see, there has been a broken motor mount cause my exhaust to come a part, broken dog bone bracket ( I now have 2 dog bones ) that broke some bolts on the new motor mount, thru a belt after intake back fire and one time for a ignition problem. Oh yeah, I run out of gas about once a month. I only get about 10 - 12 mpg the way I drive it. That's only 120 miles between fill ups. I can't wait to get the Fino with 3800sc and 5 speed finished. Want to see the difference between the 4 and 5 speeds
Got outside and cleared snow off my Fiero to get pictures today This set up has worked for me for 2 years (summers) now.
First picture is what I started with
This pictures shows the angle the new bracket is attached. If the new bracket was attached in a stock location there would be no unpainted surface showing under it. I put an angle on it so the cables pull straight, keeping the cable jacket or housing in line with the ball fitting
This shows how the shift cables clear the crossover pipe
Hope it helps
Jay
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Looks good Jay! I finally got mine on the road this past weekend. I had to adjust the select cable as I was only able to get 2nd and 4th gear without it grinding. I now have all gears except 1st which only works every 1 out of 10 attempts to keep in gear, otherwise it either pops out or grinds when I let off the clutch. I hope all it'll take is adjusting the shift cable to remedy the 1st gear issue.
Did you have to adjust yours a lot to get it working?
I had the same issue with my 4.9. I just welded up a modified crossover pipe, however, the more expensive and perhaps a little better way is to fabricate true duals.
