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1157 LED bulbs by EvilSqueezles
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Report this Post09-27-2014 03:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for EvilSqueezlesClick Here to Email EvilSqueezlesSend a Private Message to EvilSqueezlesEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Has anyone tried using the 1157 LED bulbs in place of the stock 2057 tail bulbs? They are a match as far as the socket goes. I'm just wondering if the extra heat they give off causes any problems. Thanks.

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Report this Post09-27-2014 08:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
LEDs are cooler than a regular bulb. Sometimes they look funny because of "hot spots" - places where the centers of the LEDs are very bright.
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Originally posted by EvilSqueezles:

Has anyone tried using the 1157 LED bulbs in place of the stock 2057 tail bulbs? They are a match as far as the socket goes. I'm just wondering if the extra heat they give off causes any problems. Thanks.

~James


They are not factory stock so you should not do it or you may die!

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LEDs are cooler than a regular bulb. Sometimes they look funny because of "hot spots" - places where the centers of the LEDs are very bright.


I was thinking the same thing. I was just reading through one of them and it mentioned extra heat. Hence why I asked. Maybe for some odd reason that one runs warmer? I dont know. I need all new bulbs for my new gt tails and figured I'd give an LED bulb type setup a go. If they don't work out I'll go with the LED kit here on the forums. I just don't care about the sequential lighting. So if these work they'll fit my needs much cheaper and easier. Thanks.

And to Lambonut..... I chuckled when I read that. Thanks.

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Report this Post09-27-2014 08:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tebaileyClick Here to Email tebaileySend a Private Message to tebaileyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
You may have to swap out your flasher unit too. LEDs don't draw enough juice for a standard flasher to work.
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Report this Post09-27-2014 11:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Drop in LED to replace Normal bulbs often perform poorly, especially in old cars. Too many products to say what is good or bad.
Most cheap LED won't last. Poor design, poorly made, or likely both.

Save power? Allot to not much, even no. If you use ballast/load resistors... LEDs plus Resistors can eat more power then using OE bulbs.

Save Heat? In most cases, Bulb Heat doesn't matter to old cars. UV light from Sun will to more damage then light bulb heat. OEMs know how to deal with heat and most times are very good light fixtures.
Example: Most taillights are in the good to better category, including Fiero, but Fiero Side markers do have heat problems and many front have turned clear from age and UV.
Park or Tail lights use 2-3w each. Taillight fixtures can handle heat makes for years.
Brake/Turn light use more power and generate more heat but most taillights can deal w/ that. Most times Brake/Turn is not on for long each time.

Dim light could be Old bulbs, Dirty Fixtures, Power/Ground problems.
Many old fixtures need cleaning and a coat of fresh spray chrome. Fiero and many others are not totally sealed and moisture/dirt can attack the paint that covers back part of fixtures.
Fiero Taillight ground is hidden under right rear fender and many have rust problem in that area.

See my Cave, Lighbulbs and LED poisoning
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Check the led width at the base when getting led bulbs.On the ones I bought, to get the 1157 led to fit into the 2057 base, I had to shave plastic from the face of the base.I got it to work, but it wasn't plug and play. Other leds may have the correct sizing though.

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Report this Post09-28-2014 12:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for donuteater306Click Here to Email donuteater306Send a Private Message to donuteater306Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
My advice, don't waste your money. I had installed them in my 87GT and kept them for a couple of years. Like Ogre said, they're just not bright enough and there is almost no difference between brake and running lights. It's such a subtle difference between, that if it wasn't for the 3rd brake light, people behing me wouldn't have noticed that I was on my brakes. And that's exactly what people would say when they would pull-up next to me "I think your brake lights are out." I finally reinstalled the regular bulbs.

However, if you insist on installing them, make sure that you buy the correct colors. Example, you need red LED's for tail, and Amber LED's for blinker. White LED's will overpower the stock red and amber filters and all you'll see is white light. Also, you'll need to buy two electronic flashers. One for the standard blinker (mounted low on the steering columm) and one for the hazzard lights (mounted under the dash on the passenger side footwell). Check out www.superbrightleds.com for more info. on what to buy.
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Overall it doesn't sound like its worth the effort. Will have to shoot a PM to doublec4. Thanks guys, saved me a waste of time.

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Report this Post09-28-2014 07:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tebaileyClick Here to Email tebaileySend a Private Message to tebaileyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have LED taillights and I love them. Buy quality bulbs, not the cheap Chinese junk. The LEDs I have are at least twice as bright as the standard bulbs I had. There are a lot of bulbs on the market and they vary a lot in brightness and quality.
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Hi all ..

Bumping this thread because it's been awhile since this topic was last addressed and there have been new LED bulbs introduced to the market since this was last discussed some time ago.

I am considering replacing my stop/turn lights in the rear of my '84 2M4 and was wondering if anyone has had great success with one maker/brand of bulb that went in easily and worked without having to replace any stock parts such as the flasher relay. I'd like a brighter bulb for the rear since the OEM bulbs are pretty dim compared to the new LED lighting but I don't want to hassle with having to do other work in order for them to work properly. I'd like a bulb that's plug-and-play, for lack of a better term.

Has anyone had success with brighter PNP LED tail bulbs?
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Actually Very Little has charge here, still have same or more problems to "upgrade" normal Exterior bulbs and still Illegal for Street Use in the US and many other countries. (Fix cave links above.)

Just One "new" problem not covered in the cave and this thread...
 
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LEDs are cooler than a regular bulb. Sometimes they look funny because of "hot spots" - places where the centers of the LEDs are very bright.
Not when fools run "CANBUS Error free" LED. The builtin resistor for this "feature" eat same or more power then normal bulbs and heat generated by this can self-destroy the LED and/or wreck the fixture very quickly.
Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkPGqM0Sl64

Dim bulbs is often fixtures need cleaning/repainting, have wiring/socket problems, and need to check/fix those issues.
Old Bulbs can be problems too. Tungsten bulbs can get dirt on them and soot build up etc inside before they die.

If you think Factory LED Taillights, or worse Headlights, for New cars are Great... You haven't been looking at many of them. I seen many Factory LED Dead or Partly Dead and god help you if Out of Warranty for any reason because you can't replace part of them and new taillight assembly often cost $100 and more plus Time to install them. New Factory LED HL assembly cost Way More... And try to find them when car is older then 5+ years. Unless the car is a popular model, often can/will have problem getting from dealers and forget 3rd parties.

many use 2357 in Fiero. Bit brighter and light faster but generate more heat.
For notchies... isn't a problem because of big space in the fixtures.
May be a problem w/ GT in heavy traffic and using brake lights a lot. Only use 2357 w/ red lenses. Rear amber turn lights w/ bright bulbs can "blind" other drivers at night.
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Thanks Ogre -

The lenses are clean and the bulbs that are in it are relatively new. I guess I just never felt they were very bright to begin with and was hoping to get a little bit more illumination out of the rear lights. No charging / power issues either. I don't have a third brake light (and don't really want one) so I was just looking to bump up the brightness a tad. Funny, because when I called O'Reilly's they said they had a 2 pack of LED replacements for this vehicle's rear lights - and that's one reason I came to this site to see what the consensus was. Guess I'll stick with what's in there as I'm not in need of a new can of worms.
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Funny, because when I called O'Reilly's they said they had a 2 pack of LED replacements for this vehicle's rear lights - and that's one reason I came to this site to see what the consensus was.
Almost All parts stores, Xmarts and many others have LED "upgrades" and Most of them are label "Off Road Use Only" for the reason they are Illegal.
Some like SYLVANIA™ put this mark right on the front and easy to see.
Others like Pilot have this mark but "hidden" on back/sides and printed same or smaller main text there.

Worse Most Store Staff don't know or care. Some care but keep quiet or may lose a Job.

Then add to problems SYLVANIA and other claim BS like...
● SYLVANIA LED bulbs are able to withstand road shock and vibration for optimal performance
● This is a WHITE LED bulb – ideal for daytime running lights (DRL) and back-up/reverse lights
● ZEVO® LED Bulbs are full-power instantly for increased safety, giving drivers around you more time to react compared to incandescent bulbs' slower light-up – Every foot counts
On their web site to push LED's to ignorant buyers.
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Don't listen to the negativity. Having great results with these They are brighter than stock. The color is bright white. Its a four row direct plug in bulb advertised sometimes as an 1157. Its brighter than the two row LED.


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