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88 Coupe: Negative Cambered Front Suspension alignment by FormulaDuke
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Hey guys, I bought an 88 Duke 5-speed coupe that has had the WS6 suspension from a wrecked GT grafted to it. It also had Eibach Stage 1 springs put on it, KYB silvers, and Dickman Poly bushings all around, but this previous owner also has the front wheels cambered at what looks like 3 to 5 degrees negative. QUESTION? Is the standard 88 Fiero front end adjustable to this kind of negative camber OR unknown to me, did some aftermarket outfit (now, or in the past), make a cambering ball joint, or special set of special bushings/washers, etc., in order to get the suspension to do this? This set up is GREAT on the track, or smooth twisty roads, BUT, not practical for regular rough roads. I am going back to OEM springs. I don't know what I have got down there, and putting taller springs up front will make it camber even more I think...
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Originally posted by Blacktree:

It probably has aftermarket upper balljoints in front. The aftermarket balljoints have slotted holes for the mounting bolts, so you can adjust camber easier.


For an '88?

I thought those slotted upper ball joints were just for '84-'87 Fieros?
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Report this Post11-28-2013 04:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The camber and caster are adjusted by moving the upper control arms on an 88.
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Originally posted by FormulaDuke:
QUESTION? Is the standard 88 Fiero front end adjustable to this kind of negative camber


The 88 front end when lowered has a more difficult time reaching 0 or positive camber, however, negative camber by a few degrees is quite easy. It is also the default setting (upper a-arm shaft pushed all the way back) when they forget to properly torque the cross shaft bolts. Just take the car in for an alignment and as long as the car isn't severely lowered, they should be able to get it back within stock specs.
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Report this Post11-28-2013 11:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FormulaDukeSend a Private Message to FormulaDukeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
This is awesome guys, thanks for the response. In the morning will check the upper ball joint for slotting, as well as talk to my alignment guy to see what he knows THANKS!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Patrick:

For an '88?

I thought those slotted upper ball joints were just for '84-'87 Fieros?


Yeah, I think you're right. It seems I had a brain fart there. Please ignore my previous post.
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Report this Post11-29-2013 01:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
See my Cave, Alignment Spec's

Alignment problems could be:
lowered car
bad bushings
bad Alignment
bent control arms, very easy on low cars

Polly can wear out w/o making any noise.

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Report this Post11-30-2013 01:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FormulaDukeSend a Private Message to FormulaDukeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
THANKS OGRE, I will keep all of that in mind. Incidentally, I have been told that these Dickman poly bushings are coated with a lubricant that gets squeezed out eventually.. When I get this work done, what should I use to lubricate them?
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Originally posted by FormulaDuke:
When I get this work done, what should I use to lubricate them?


The stickiest, slimiest, slipperiest silicone grease you can get. And be generous in application. You may still get squeaks later down the road. Then just grease them up again.

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Report this Post12-02-2013 01:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FormulaDukeSend a Private Message to FormulaDukeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
THANKS, vrz from Tennessee. I will let you know how it turns out......
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