I heard yesterday that if I run the fierox/WCF motor mounts that my motor will not be even close to fitting. I was told that you need 1" drop motor mounts or a deck lid scoop just to clear my 2.5" IC and blower with the N* throttle body.

These 1" lowering mounts are made by a member called "Whodini". Apparently he is no longer on the boards and doesn't make mounts anymore. Can anyone shed some light on this possible issue for me!

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ER......what does this stand for, "IC/GenV/N* 3800"? If this is a GEN V 3800 ALL 3800 series I, II, and III are the same as far as the motor mounts are concerned. If the quote "N*" refers to the transmission I suggest you call WCF.

WCF motor mounts and transmission mounts will work fine if you ease the motor down; talk to Chris West who can explain exactly what to do. Also he may tell you that it may be better to modify just the rear deck as the 1 inch drop may give you an incorrect rear axle geometry or some such and then again he may just make you a shorter set of mounts for use as you have described . Just call and ask.

Regards,

David

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I believe he has an 3800 SC with a Gen V blower, a Northstar TB and an intercooler placed between the lower intake and blower. Just a guess, (but I think you know that from looking at what you drive)

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I agree with qwikgta I do believe thays exactly what he meant.. I do believe with a intercooler it will come close. But nothing a little notch in the decklid can't fix

Sorry, I was just using standard 3800 world terminology. Didn't know that would be confusing to you guys.
Yes I have a top swapped 3800, genv blower, north star throttle body, 2.5" zzp full stack ic. Do any of you know for sure if it fits? I already know the fast back hatch needs to be trimmed...but that's just for standard 3800sc swaps. If you install an ic it takes a lot more room.

I'm guessing you're a gp guy lol I honestly am not sure. Heck I know on a gp the stack fits with exactly 1.75" clearance to the hood. . I've see a few 3800 fiero swaps and this may help you a bit.. does the charger sit higher than the factory alternator with the stack.? If so iits not going to fit without trimming. A basic 3800 sc popped in a fiero doesnt clear the alternator and about 3/4" needs trimmed from the passenger side of the decklid just to clear.

quote Originally posted by djlamp14: I heard yesterday that if I run the fierox/WCF motor mounts that my motor will not be even close to fitting. I was told that you need 1" drop motor mounts or a deck lid scoop just to clear my 2.5" IC and blower with the N* throttle body. These 1" lowering mounts are made by a member called "Whodini". Apparently he is no longer on the boards and doesn't make mounts anymore. Can anyone shed some light on this possible issue for me!

There is no vendor making the lowering mounts anymore. FieroAddiction used to and Whodennie did a few sets also I believe. If u want lowering mounts u will have to make up ur own set. If using WCF style mounts u will need to notch the declid to clear the blower and TB. This is not a big issues as the decklid can be filled back in to look stock. Also can trim top rib of SC off to help with clearence issues.

quote Originally posted by djlamp14: Sorry, I was just using standard 3800 world terminology. Didn't know that would be confusing to you guys. Yes I have a top swapped 3800, genv blower, north star throttle body, 2.5" zzp full stack ic. Do any of you know for sure if it fits? I already know the fast back hatch needs to be trimmed...but that's just for standard 3800sc swaps. If you install an ic it takes a lot more room.

I have the same basic setup installed in a 1988 Mera and there are no clearance problems or deck mods required. However, I believe that the Mera has a higher rear deck lid than a stock Fiero. BTW, the current pulley is a 3.4 inch one.



Nelson

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It will fit, but you will have to trim the decklid supports on both sides. Likely will have to remove the springs on decklid as well. On mine, with same setup, and GT decklid, I had to remove rear half of each hinge, and the springs to make it fit. The hinge will still function with one bolt on each side, but you will need a prop rod to hold decklid up.

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damn its gonna be that close? Like thats shitty having to find a prop rod just to keep it up and not being able to use the gas pistons that keep it up.

quote Originally posted by LFiero67: It will fit, but you will have to trim the decklid supports on both sides. Likely will have to remove the springs on decklid as well. On mine, with same setup, and GT decklid, I had to remove rear half of each hinge, and the springs to make it fit. The hinge will still function with one bolt on each side, but you will need a prop rod to hold decklid up.

This is exactly what u will have to do then add dual gas struts to keep the decklid up or use prop rod..

The factory spring setup sucks anyway. They are way overkill, heavy, and function poorly after they are 20 years old.

Alright so what I heard about the lowering mounts was pretty much BS. A little trimming of the hatch and using dual gas struts will allow it to all fit then. Also I'm not cutting on my blower lol Shes too shiny to do that
http://s155.photobucket.com...5933549_o-1.jpg.html

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quote Originally posted by djlamp14: Alright so what I heard about the lowering mounts was pretty much BS. A little trimming of the hatch and using dual gas struts will allow it to all fit then. Also I'm not cutting on my blower lol Shes too shiny to do that http://s155.photobucket.com...5933549_o-1.jpg.html

Correct..it has been done 100 times over aleady...Thd lowering mounts that FA built at one time was a nice opition to have though. With WCF style mounts u will have to cut about 1.25 inches or so on both sides of the decklid along with half the hindge.

and those fieroX ones of yours will be no different than WCF? The only difference is yours are thicker?

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: .Thd lowering mounts that FA built at one time was a nice opition to have though.

Yeah,...someone should reproduce those style mounts....