Tried new working bulb, still does not come on

Checked power on the printed metal strip where the bulb contacts, nothing.

Car runs and drives fine but I would to check the codes.

Is there an ECM pin I can backprobe or other way to make sure the signal is being sent?

Any other ideas are welcome,

Thanks

quote Originally posted by zkhennings: Tried new working bulb, still does not come on Checked power on the printed metal strip where the bulb contacts, nothing. Car runs and drives fine but I would to check the codes. Is there an ECM pin I can backprobe or other way to make sure the signal is being sent? Any other ideas are welcome, Thanks

Yes, if you connect pins A and B on the ALDL and follow the process, it will let you check the codes. You should get a code 12 to let you know the computer is "OK"

How to check codes: http://www.pontiacperforman.../OSG/codes.html#read
What the codes mean: http://www.pontiacperforman...icles/OSG/codes.html

I think the OP is telling us that the light does not work under those conditions.

[This message has been edited by Gall757 (edited 11-05-2013).]

Thread title sounded like your issue was there are no problems, no idiot lights, car runs fine....it was freaking you out

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quote Originally posted by zkhennings: Tried new working bulb, still does not come on Checked power on the printed metal strip where the bulb contacts, nothing. Car runs and drives fine but I would to check the codes. Is there an ECM pin I can backprobe or other way to make sure the signal is being sent? Any other ideas are welcome, Thanks

Unplug the ECM, turn the key on and ground the SES lamp wire in the harness. The bulb should light. If it does, the ECM is bad. If not, the wiring or power to the bulb is bad.

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I don't have the pinout handy, but the CEL trigger runs through the C203. unplug the C203, ground the pin for the bulb (should be a brown wire IIRC.) and that will tell you if it's in the chassis harness or something with the PCM/connectors.

I ran into a similar problem on my 3500 swap, the bulb wasn't coming on. turned out to be a mis-wired PCM.

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The wire for the SES lamp is brown with a white stripe. It goes thru pin C in the C203 plug, and pin A5 on the V6 ECM. Like mentioned above, ground that wire to turn on the SES lamp.

Thanks guys, I needed to know just that. The actual printed circuit on the back of the dash appears fine, I have had it out of the car a few times. IIRC the light stopped working some time after I set the timing (either immediately or within a few minutes) I did not pay attention to it at the time. It is probably a fluke though I will check the harness itself at the C203 connector and hopefully the test light will light. If not is there a possibility it is internal to the ECM? I can obviously trace it back and backprobe the ECM connector if it does not light at the C203, but if it does not light there... If it DOES light at the c203, then I will check the actual plug that plugs into the dash itself because the printed circuit probably got messed up there if it got messed up anywhere.

I will check first and then post back