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clutch travel by newfiejeff
Started on: 10-02-2013 04:47 PM
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Report this Post10-02-2013 04:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for newfiejeffSend a Private Message to newfiejeffEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
1986 2m4 5 speed

Hi I thought that I had the clutch problem fixed but guess not. I bought the car with hard getting in gear from neutral and only getting a half inch travel on the slave cylinder. I bled it and got about 3/4 inch and that fixed it. Back again with only about 1/2 inch, tried quickly to bleed it again and still not better. The master cylinder is new before I got the car about a month ago. So I bled it by advice from here so now I am thinking that its the slave cylinder giving me problems
Would the slave cylinder leak past the piston and some of the fluid just staying in the line and not pushing on the piston?
The master clyinder is not leaking and the slave cylinder is not leaking fluid outside either.

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You could have a worn master alright. You could also have a worn slave or air at the slave.

First step is to determine there is no slop in the pedal. Simply put, the pedal should not have any play you can move with your hand.

Second step is to take a broom handle and use it to depress your clutch while you observe the slave. The piston on the slave should move immediately when you start to depress the pedal.

If it doesn't the chances are most likely that you have air in the line. If your reservoir gets too low it can suck air in and it is a pita to get out.

If you have air in the slave you need to elevate the bleeder to the highest point and then bleed it.

If you have air in the master, it is then a matter of loosening the tube from the master and have somebody press the pedal forcing everything out, then tighten it up and make sure the reservoir is able to fill the master. You may have to bleed the whole system if this has happened

Hope this helps

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Report this Post10-03-2013 04:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for newfiejeffSend a Private Message to newfiejeffEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
From what I can remember there is no play in the pedal. I need to push the pedal about half way or so before the slave starts to move, so I guess there is air.
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Originally posted by newfiejeff:

From what I can remember there is no play in the pedal. I need to push the pedal about half way or so before the slave starts to move, so I guess there is air.


Disconnect the master, bleed that back into itself, first, it may have air inside itself even if it is new.
bleed slave next, into a container, use clear lines to do this and you can see air bubbles if there are any.
make sure non of the mounting bolts are lose for the slave cylinder or anything that mounts the cables the clutch fork.

lots of things can cause this but it is just a matter of hunting it down.

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Report this Post10-03-2013 05:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for newfiejeffSend a Private Message to newfiejeffEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
GOT IT!!!!
It was air, I jacked the front of the car up about 2 miles...lol...and bled her that way using gravity and a stick on the clutch. There was considerable amount of air and when I thought that I had it all one more push some more came out. There is some difference in the slave cylinder movement now, just a touch of the clutch and it moves.

Thanks again to all gave me input!!!
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