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fiero mirror?? by fierogt28
Started on: 07-27-2013 11:03 PM
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Report this Post07-27-2013 11:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogt28Click Here to Email fierogt28Send a Private Message to fierogt28Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Did all fieros use the same drivers side mirror??

I'd like to know if all used the same GM part # stamped on it.

I've seen many 88s have the mirror slightly curved downwards, not perfectly horizontal.

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Report this Post07-28-2013 11:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yes, same mirror. Sometimes the door mount area gets bent. I had that issue when I bought a fiero. I just had to straighten the mounting area.

(or someone mounted a camaro/firebird/corvette/etc mirror, which has a slightly different angle at the mounting point)

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Report this Post07-28-2013 11:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for crashyoungClick Here to Email crashyoungSend a Private Message to crashyoungEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Don't forget the plastic gasket.
It may be damaged.
But don't try to 'lift' the mirror back into position!
They are cast and easily broken...
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Report this Post07-28-2013 10:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogt28Click Here to Email fierogt28Send a Private Message to fierogt28Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I bought the mirror from a member here. The angle is better or higher than the old one I had.
The old mirror has the same GM part number as the one I just installed.

If I would bend the mirror mount metal towards the car, that would lift or bring back the mirror
up higher. This would require removing the outer door skin not to scratch or chance of damaging
the paint. I've noticed or studied pics from 88s on this forum, and some I have observed that the
mirror angle isn't horizontaly strait.

The newer mirror I installed is better, but not a perfect as my other 88GT.

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Report this Post07-28-2013 11:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KhwClick Here to Email KhwSend a Private Message to KhwEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Older corvette and camaro/firerbird used mirrors that are interchangeable with the fiero except the mounting arm is shorter so the mirror sits at a lower angle. The housings for the glass are identical just the arm is a different length. I suspect yours was probably damaged at some point and time and replaced with one of the easier to find units from one of the mentioned models.
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Originally posted by Khw:

Older corvette and camaro/firerbird used mirrors that are interchangeable with the fiero except the mounting arm is shorter so the mirror sits at a lower angle. The housings for the glass are identical just the arm is a different length. I suspect yours was probably damaged at some point and time and replaced with one of the easier to find units from one of the mentioned models.


Yeah, but both my mirrors have the same part #.

Unless the camaro / firebird / corvette have the same GM part numbers?
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Originally posted by fierogt28:

Unless the camaro / firebird / corvette have the same GM part numbers?


I'm not sure if they did or not but here is a picture of a corvette (red) and fiero (black) mirror. You can look at yours in comparison to the picture and see if that's the cause.



You can see thet the arm is shorter on the corvette mirror.

Also a comparison of how the Camaro mirror sits when on the door.

Fiero


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Report this Post07-28-2013 11:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for crashyoungClick Here to Email crashyoungSend a Private Message to crashyoungEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If you remove the mirror, the frame is readily accessible.
You may get lucky and be able to tweak the metal without
removing the skin.
Is it the same with both mirrors, or just the one?
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Originally posted by crashyoung:

If you remove the mirror, the frame is readily accessible.
You may get lucky and be able to tweak the metal without
removing the skin.
Is it the same with both mirrors, or just the one?


Just one, the drivers side.
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Khw, my drivers side looks exactly like the installed pic (passenger) of the "camaro" mirror you posted.

The passenger side is normal, no issues there.

I'll have a look again at the mounting on the mirror, but again...they both share the same part #.

BTW, I appriciate the photos...

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Originally posted by fierogt28:

I've noticed or studied pics from 88s on this forum, and some I have observed that the
mirror angle isn't horizontaly strait.



Hmmm, I haven't seen that.

I installed a mirror from an '85 onto my '88 and it matches the actual '88 mirror on the other side of the car.

I'll double check it though in case there's a difference I just haven't noticed.

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Report this Post07-29-2013 11:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for dematrix86gtClick Here to Email dematrix86gtSend a Private Message to dematrix86gtEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ive actually ran into a few Angled shim/ gaskets before. The Gaskets were like a hard plastic shim with a GM part number on them but one side being thicker than the other. Thought they might of been running low on a Assy line and used these mirrors with shims to correct the angle.
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Originally posted by fierogt28:

Khw, my drivers side looks exactly like the installed pic (passenger) of the "camaro" mirror you posted.

The passenger side is normal, no issues there.

I'll have a look again at the mounting on the mirror, but again...they both share the same part #.

BTW, I appriciate the photos...



No problem .

Things like that stick in my head for some reason. I hope it's at least a little helpful.

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Originally posted by dematrix86gt:

Ive actually ran into a few Angled shim/ gaskets before. The Gaskets were like a hard plastic shim with a GM part number on them but one side being thicker than the other. Thought they might of been running low on a Assy line and used these mirrors with shims to correct the angle.


Thats what I found too. GM has a whole assortment of different thickness gaskets cut at different angles. I put Corvette mirrors on my 86, used the right gasket and the mirrors were level. They didnt drop down anything like that passenger door shows. If they werent perfecly level, they were close enough you would need a bubble level to tell.

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Originally posted by crashyoung:

If you remove the mirror, the frame is readily accessible.
You may get lucky and be able to tweak the metal without
removing the skin.
Is it the same with both mirrors, or just the one?


this is exactly what I did to level a mirror. The metal under the mirror was deflected a little. I used a bolt/socket/washer. The bolt went through from the backside, the socket goes over the threaded part of the bolt and the washer and nut are at the top. Just tighten the nut until the indentation is removed from the mounting point.

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Report this Post08-02-2013 01:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierogt28Click Here to Email fierogt28Send a Private Message to fierogt28Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
BTW, anyone have the correct GM part number for the drivers and passenger power mirror??

Yes, I'd like both.

Thanks,

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